Guido Fawkes Blog - Latest Comments in Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:22:00 -0000

They're all at it. Lembit O'Pickled rented out his London flat whilst living with Sian Lloyd in Camden. He also claimed for his house in his constituency, whilst she paid the mortgage there. The man's a total disgrace - a grasping buffoon. The sooner he's investigated the better

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Fred Fartwell — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:35:00 -0000

The allegation about Darling does not surprise me in the slightest.

What else would one expect from a (and don't try and tell me 'former') Marxist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

jac — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:39:00 -0000

Steve Tierney, 2.10pm - but the scenario you give could never be stealing, because the person who owns the coffee (assuming that's the big boss you refer to) is the owner of said coffee and entitled to give it to whoever he likes.
Him giving his staff coffee may fairly be considered a perk of the job. He owns it, he chooses to give it to his employees.

However, Jacqui Smith ripping off the taxpayer by untruthfully saying her sister's back bedroom is her "main home" is hardly the same thing!

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Steve Tierney — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:10:00 -0000

Wow. I don't usually get people responding to my comments on here.

PP;-

I think you misunderstood my comment. Have another look. Your proposal that the 'bigger boss' might look badly on 'stealing coffee' misses the point I made. There wasn't a 'bigger boss' in my argument, it was the top boss who set the rules. Also it wasn't 'stealing' because it was specifically agreed by everybody the employee checked it with.

Now I enjoy a debate as much as the next guy and I welcome your response. But if you're gonna CAPITALISE and swear at me, at least take the time to read and understand what I've written.

I'm with you, you know. I don't like this was of taxpayer money either. But if its within the rules (it is in some, but not all cases) then its the rules that need changing. I love having a pop at Labour too, I just think 'fair' is better than 'easy' for targetting, in the long run.

Another commentor said:

"But its not US thats paying for it."

- I understand and agree with the sentiment, but its not quite correct. When somebody steals additional coffee, eventually, through the work of markets, we do all pay for it. It just takes a while and comes through a very convoluted route.

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

jac — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:10:00 -0000

All this "it's in the Rules" rubbish drives me mad. Like hell it is. Do the Rules say it's OK to claim money you haven't spent? Do they say it's OK to doss down in your sister's spare room occasionally and claim £24,000 PER YEAR for that?
Do they say it's OK to say your sister's spare room is your main home, when the only home you actually own is lived in by your husband and children?

No they don't - and generously written as they are so MPs can take the taxpayer for an all-expenses-paid ride - this generous they aren't.

Why don't any of the interviewers actually ask the questions everyone else is shouting at the TV? Well, not the BBC of course, because they operate as yet another scam on the taxpayer, and a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Labour Party - but the others......

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Half eyed Scottish idiot — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:16:00 -0000

Jacqui Klebb is supposed to pay her sister about £100 per week.

She must be getting a good deal. Judging by the size of her, she must trough more than that a week in Mars bars.

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

pp — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:00:00 -0000

quickness of the hand @9:37

Yes I noticed that too 'Northern Rock has loads of money because it has paid back most of the loan it had from the tax payer'.

What? so it has paid some (not all) back, so the taxpayer lends that back to them again ???

Yes, really positive stuff - just shows that it couldn't really afford to have paid it back in the first place...

The REAL answer... NR are completely bankrupt, the taxpayer is massively out of pocket, brown/darling used our money to buy a pup. The only way of 'hiding' this from us is to try to make it into a successful growing company and hope it makes enough that the losses aren't too big, or at least don't show up before the election.

Cunts - Brown/Darling don't have a clue how to make money - the banks are the experts in making money - you tap the government for it - easy!

Only problem... the government can't tap themselves... Oh yes they can! They can issue bonds, and print money to buy them!

Only problem... the taxpayer eventually picks up the bill...

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:41:00 -0000

There are 4 voters in our family household. We were going to vote Tory (we all hate Zanulab), but we really cannot see any real difference between them. All MPs/MEPs/ and the rest of 'em are just lining their own pockets at the publics expense.

The tories are fucking it up big time. They need to get rid off these porky bastards and flush out with a good dose of VIM.

To be honest, you may as well stay indoors for the next GE.

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

the quickness of the hand dece — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:37:00 -0000

"cesars wife said...
hold on a minute ban 100% mortgages then northern rock annouces 90% mortgages.

so tax payers money is going to be used to create a mortgage instrument worth 14bn , i thought thinking on the rock was to make it safe by winding down .

this is tax payers money right ??

this is a gamble right being as if full blown recession house rices will fall further .

why put a vunerable bank into another gamble??

public purse does not need handing over to more risks .

somthing well dodgey , being as new home owners are the young and are likely to suffer the recession more than a couple .

granite had better not be getting any or northern rock foundation, nother complex ponzi scheme

February 23, 2009 1:22 AM"

The idea was for NR to sell off the good stuff on its books and pay back the taxpayers wad shoved in there courtesy of G. Brown (fuckwits-R-Us). NR has done this - you must have heard the BBC trumpeting the achievement - "NR pays back half the taxpayers investment" (subtext: 'See how wonderful the Glorious (and Courageous) Leader is: Marvel at his wisdom, wonder at his foresight.')

This left the slight problem of the 'Toxic Debt' - the mortgages that have no chance of being repaid on houses that have collapsed in value - the stuff that crashed the bank in the first place hasn't gone away.

Brown has come up with this wizard wheeze. He is going to start NR lending again at commercial rates; as the 'Labourgraph' puts it: "a good deal for the taxpayer" and McDoom is going to dilute the debt that remains on the books.

In short he is using the model that got us into the mess in the first place: subprime lending parcelled up with AAA rated debts and floated onto the market - only in this case McThievingScum has a captive market - us.

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Swiss Bob — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:31:00 -0000

"Now if nobody else did that, you could see you were technically not in the spirit of the rules. But if everybody else did it, and the boss knew and said it was okay, and you asked the office 'supervisor' and they also confirmed it was okay... would you be wrong to keep your home cupboard stocked? Would you refuse to do so?"

This imaginary Father Christmas would be fine if it were his coffee to give away but not if he is giving away 'our' coffee FFS.

I'm sure I could be very generous with your possessions and would be quite happy to give them away to almost anyone.

Stanislav’s Blues

I am going to live chat the Daily Politics today. All are welcome:

The Daily Politics Live Chat Blog

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Aethelred — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:13:00 -0000

The minimum standard for MPs should be the same standards that the Law/HMRC apply to local councillors, teachers and small businesses.

The "comedian" Mark Steel(e?) was on the radio boasting about his nicking money from his employer in the 70s when he was a petrol pump monkey.

It's the socialist mind-set: "property is theft, so I'll nick it back again."

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Gordons Arsed You UK — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:06:00 -0000

IMF spokesman view on Brown £500bn stimulus - you're all up queer street.

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Right Bastard — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:05:00 -0000

Morning All

For those of you that don't know, I would like to thank you, the British taxpayer for providing me with the capital to enable me to buy/develop my business premises. I would also like to thank you for paying all the interest on the capital whilst my investment increases in value and the profits from the pharmacy sideline enhance my grossly inflated salary which that nice man, Dr John Reid, kindly arranged for us. He also gave us a choice to work less hours which we took him up on as you'll agree because we all worked far too hard. This has had an unexpected benefit in that I can now spend a lot of this precious spare time on the golf course with my medical friends.

Looking forward to sticking my finger up your collective arses in due course.

Your friendly GP

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Winston Smith — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:03:00 -0000

Keep at this Guido - the MPs and MEPs need to understand that they can't steal from us. Just because it is 'within the rules' doesn't mean it's OK Madam Home Secretary, you thieving cow. They know they are screwing us and it's disgusting.

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Dennis — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:56:00 -0000

Woman on a Raft

Luv it! More, please!

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Oldrightie — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:52:00 -0000

It really is a mad house. Sorry, that's unfair to mad houses!

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

cassandra — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:44:00 -0000

The retarded mong McMental and his brainless puppet are trying to reinflate the property bubble with billions more taxslave cash, money that will have to paid by generations of taxlsaves for decades!
The fucking imbecile and his walking tape recorder are encouraging people to buy at highly inflated prices in a falling market, that is criminal!

The only sector left with secure jobs now is the grossly obese state sector and when the inevitble slimming down of the state sector comes then those people will be in negative equity with no fucking jobs!

Well done McMental, you have just outdone yourself in the madhouse loony Alice in wonderland insanity you do so well!

McMental is so desperate to cling onto power he is prepared to ruin the lives of the tens of thousands of people stupid enough to go for these loans!

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:35:00 -0000

“Cultured people are merely the glittering scum which floats upon
the deep river of production.” W. S. Churchill

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:33:00 -0000

Explaining some oddities in his financial transactions with houses Milliband's explanation of a 5 year delay in updating Land Registry was:

"The reason they did not change it before is they just did not get around to it. It’s complicated and expensive. It took a while for them to find a lawyer who could do it. All taxes have been paid in full.’"

Yeah right. Conveying a house is so complex. That's why it takes us all 5 years.

And WHEN were the taxes paid?

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

Javelin — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:34:00 -0000

Brown and Darling show a complete contempt for taxpayers hard earnt savings. They spend hundreds of billions propping up banks why should they think twice about a few hundred thousand as a perk for all this hard work they are putting in.

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

BEAR FIGHTS IN OUR ROAD — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:26:00 -0000

Northern Rock is to embark on a £14bn mortgage sales drive to resuscitate Britain’s sluggish housing market, fuelled by a hefty injection of fresh government funding for the state-owned lender to be announced Monday. Northern Rock will split into a “good bank/bad bank” structure, allowing it to lend about £5bn of new mortgages in 2009 and £9bn from 2010, depending on market demand and funding, the government said Sunday night.

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

William — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:21:00 -0000

It's really very common, in all walks of life and in all jobs, if a 'perk' is allowable in the rules people take advantage of it.

Yes, but we are not paying for it!

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL GUNSHOP — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:14:00 -0000

cant we just skip this moaning and handwringing phase and move on to dragging the bastards from downing street, giving them a quick fair trial(say 20 minuits) and then hanging them.

O/T Perhaps we could form a huge lottery syndicate with SO17.

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

cesars wife — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:22:00 -0000

hold on a minute ban 100% mortgages then northern rock annouces 90% mortgages.

so tax payers money is going to be used to create a mortgage instrument worth 14bn , i thought thinking on the rock was to make it safe by winding down .

this is tax payers money right ??

this is a gamble right being as if full blown recession house rices will fall further .

why put a vunerable bank into another gamble??

public purse does not need handing over to more risks .

somthing well dodgey , being as new home owners are the young and are likely to suffer the recession more than a couple .

granite had better not be getting any or northern rock foundation, nother complex ponzi scheme

Re: Sunday Sleaze Round-Up

pp — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:21:00 -0000

Steve Tierney

You couldn't be more wrong.

We (the british taxpayer) foot the bill for this corruption - we never said it was OK.

If you steal coffee from the staff room on the say so of your direct boss, but then the big boss finds out and thinks otherwise, you are all fucked -- and rightly so.

NEVER EVER DO ANYTHING YOU WOULD NOT ADMIT TO.

COS IF YOU DO, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BOTHERED TO KEEP OUR INTEGRITY WILL FUCK YOUR THIEVING ARSES INTO THE FUCKING GROUND.

(sorry about the caps, I couldn't find the green ink)