It is the right thing to do. British expenses for British MPs wibble wibble hatstand wibble.
wow I could do this ......talk shite and steal like your life depends on it.
Alex
· 10 months ago
So how does that work. Darling claims allowances on a secondary residence that he doesn't use?
He may own the flat, but he isn't entitkled to the allowance unless he lives in oit, because it isn't his "residence".
David Davis
· 10 months ago
I want to internetize the common-noun "troughpiggers". Will you all help us, please?
NeoLiberal
· 10 months ago
Re: Gordon Brown.
So if he's getting a "stern ticking off" from MPs for putting £1,600 off the books, I assume that when his tragic ghost-of-a-chancellor anncounces he's going to bailout the PFI farce for £4,000,000,000, also off the books, a proportional punishment would be what exactly? Evisceration?
Chris Paul
· 10 months ago
The Mail on Sunday had the Darling story a full week ago, did they not? In the inky version, not checked the online.
The £1600 sounds pretty trivial compared to all those Tory failures to declare. GOO and his backers, Duncan and his backers, Spelman and her secretary/nursemaid, you know the rest.
You will lose your heard earned reputation for "fair play" Guido if you don't tackle Ashcroft for one thing, and namecheck a few more scheming Tory home owners for another.
I think MPs should all be given a £40,000 pay rise consolidating their tax free allowances. And moonlighting should be severly restricted in scope and quantum.
Gareth
· 10 months ago
So Meachy Meacher wasn't the only MP with a property portfolio.
I guess that's why they were so keen to keep house prices inflated.
poricust
· 10 months ago
"How does the son of a Marxist professor end up living in a £1.3 million home without ever having a proper job outside politics?"
Those troughing scum make me sick. Hooning Nulab cunts.
wv = atorying! wtf
BloodyFuckingRavingMadAgainToo
· 10 months ago
None of this is surprising. In a system that is so prone to abuse these corrupt legislators of this country's downfall are best placed to serve their own interests. Brown going in the Guardian about putting people first is a FUCKING LIE, another one to go with all the rest of them. How many more ways are there of saying ELECTION NOW
Bill Quango MP
· 10 months ago
Brown still getting bashed up over at the Observer.
My favourite is the third one. You can almost hear the window of the white van being wound down and a builders head poking out and shouting as he passes Downing Street..
"You are SO bad at your job mate!"
250+ comments and only Polly and Dolly supporting him.
If he can't get support at the Observer then he really has lost the dressing room. Time to find a former Messiah to take over and lead the faithful away from relegation.
A choice between Kevin Keegan Blair or Joe Kinnear Kinnock.
City of Vice
· 10 months ago
Chris Paul
"I think MPs should all be given a £40,000 pay rise consolidating their tax free allowances. And moonlighting should be severly restricted in scope and quantum."
You're kidding, right? What fucking planet have you been living on? Most of these bastards deserve a £40000 pay cut.
This is another Darling fiddle - and it was the Herald.
Would be surprised if they nail Ashcroft.
Lord Snooty
· 10 months ago
Good stuff Guido. One think that pisses me off is the sight of MPs with considerable independent means claiming all these allowances. Haven't they ever heard of public service? This cuts across parties I admit but there are some particularly choice and nauseating examples on the Tory front bench (Dave, Gideon etc). Cunts.
Fucking delicious!
· 10 months ago
If you really give a fuck about this, why name only Labour people (with a token LD thrown in)?
i hate labour
· 10 months ago
Well I've been away for some time. Just popped by to visit the rapidly growing army of like minded people.
Pork Belly
· 10 months ago
These scandals should be published every day without any apology until the thieving pigs are shamed out of office !!
Tyburn Jig
· 10 months ago
I'd give these bastards a one-way ticket to Tyburn.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
the whole system is shot through with corruption.
it makes me fucking sick and angry.
seriously, if there was a riot in central london tomorrow I'd jump right in there.
smash the place to shit I would.
GOD I'm FUCKING ANGRY!!!!! :(
Stop Common Purpose
· 10 months ago
poricust said...
"Four homes good, two homes bad."
BRILLIANT!!!
bofl
· 10 months ago
gotta love those marxists.....
putting people first!
ie themselves!
(where did Brown get his money to buy his 2 properties)?
Air Nokia One
· 10 months ago
has the pope 'popped his clogs yet?'...just wondering?
Throbber
· 10 months ago
Labour = filthy, lying, thieving, self interested scum. Always has, always will be.
Fucking delicious!
· 10 months ago
Chris Paul you must be one of Dolly Drapers rebuttal Hoons. Please return to Labourlist at once. We dont want Neanderthals paid to pump out Labour party propaganda over here. So bugger off.
Fucking delicious!
Starfucks Mandybots
· 10 months ago
HOLY SHIT!!!
Telegraph reporting that Desperate Brown plans £500billion bank gamble
A £500 billion banking bail-out will be at the centre of a rescue package announced by Gordon Brown this week amid desperation over the Government’s failure to save the economy.
we are sooo fucked!
LOL from Planet Mad!
· 10 months ago
Nail Ashcroft? This is just bollox dripped into the ear of gullible dead tree journos too lazy to bother to write their own...Ashcroft has been doing this for years and this is not a new story...why in the press now? Fat Jackie needs some media distraction...and guess what? yes suckers there it is!
Dick the Prick
· 10 months ago
Bud. Screw 'em out of principle' needs to be shut down for a bit - let's watch. This is ace for Teachers - grrrr.
Let's watch eh?
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
These fiddles have pervaded many areas of so called public service re this weeks article in the spectator about levels of public sector pay, perks and pensions
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
2008 Awards Poll: Blogging Iain Dale 9:52 AM
Blog Personality of the Year
1. Guido Fawkes 42% 2. Mike Smithson 12% 3. Tim Montgomerie 8%
1. Tom Harris 20% 2. Recess Monkey 13% 3. Harry's Place 9%
I was so convined that Dolly and Labour list would have come close as well
Osama the Nazarene
· 10 months ago
These are the real fucking scroungers. It is right that in Westminster these cunts should be lodged in bed and breakfast like their unfortunate constituents who fall on hard times. They can get their lunches from the HoC canteen.
So17
· 10 months ago
wanker Blair was only three numbers away from his just desserts this weekend. I have put the Ex- Spetznaz blokes on standby at the moment.
This issue of expenses makes me fucking laugh. Why not take it out the hands of the 'House' authoritys and give the whole job to the Inland revenue Family tax fucking credit dept. Then an MP would know what it is like to have to justify every penny and then get the full wrath of khan for a fuck up the revenue made. 'You are guilty till you prove your own innocence' attitude to these cunts wouldn't do them any harm.
Steve Tierney
· 10 months ago
While I agree this is pretty rotten and we shouldn't put up with it - and while I hate Labour as much as the next right-of-center commentor, lets put it in perspective.
It's really very common, in all walks of life and in all jobs, if a 'perk' is allowable in the rules people take advantage of it.
If your boss tells you that you may have "all the coffee you like, the store cupboard is kept fully stocked" you could just drink lots of cups a day.
But you could also give it to all your friends, take huge tubs home for your own use etc.
Now if nobody else did that, you could see you were technically not in the spirit of the rules. But if everybody else did it, and the boss knew and said it was okay, and you asked the office 'supervisor' and they also confirmed it was okay... would you be wrong to keep your home cupboard stocked? Would you refuse to do so?
I'm not saying they're in the right. I'm just saying it may not be the 'hanging offense' we'd initially maybe like it to be.
Surely what's needed, now this scam is becoming so obvious, is to change the rules? Job done. Unless every stone-thrower out there is prepared to systematically say, given a perk like this which was entirely legal and in-the-rules to use, they wouldn't have done so themselves?
A worried reader, writing . .
· 10 months ago
Dear Guido,
I am in a job that, frankly, I can't cope with. To be honest, which is very rare for me, I haven't got a clue what I am doing. And the more confused I get the more stupid things I seem to do.
All I know is, I'm in shit street, in a dead end, and, because only nutters listen to me now, I can't bluff me way out of this one. I'm broke, I can't pay my debts. Worse, I've got a lot of other people in a mess and many are looking to me to sort out the trouble I've caused. And some overseas nonsense is coming back to haunt me.
Can you advise me please? Everyone else I know says I'm crap, and should give up. What do you think? Would a post at the World Bank suit me?
GB Londistan
Cupid Stunt
· 10 months ago
Why am I not suprised....this is rather piss-poor.
Let's ban 100% mortgages! Yes more houses for us to buy.
Grr
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Nothing gets past you lot does it, New Labour are marxists that's the problem, bloody old style socialist left wingers aren't they.
Fuckwits.
urinalpeep
· 10 months ago
Brown got his arse filled on the Observer!!
Henry McLeish got the bum rush from the Scottish Parliament for not declaring office rent!!!
Bum rush for Brown!!!!!
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
flatten whitehall, hang the traitors, then lets start again.
the lib/lab/con must go, and new parties be allowed to contest for the peoples votes.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Darling should be made to shackup with jackboots and maybe then he might qualify for some sort of relief!
H
· 10 months ago
No more 100% mortgages!!!!
Isn't the problem that mortgages were 10 times salary (and possibly 150%)?
Get a grip gordo!
Old Holborn
· 10 months ago
I notice Snotty is banning 100% mortgages.
I can't wait to see him approach the IMF when we are currently 300% of GDP in debt.
Mike Law
· 10 months ago
Am watching a recording of Smith trying to squirm her way round an excuse for having her nose in trough on Marr's show.
"I claimed less money this year than I did last year"
"I also don't think in this country that most MPs, of whatever party, are on the make. I genuinely don't think that".
Well that's all right then.
For fuck's sake!!!!
Auntie Flo'
· 10 months ago
"How does the son of a Marxist professor end up living in a £1.3 million home without ever having a proper job outside politics?"
Guido, the folowing is from the 1967 telephone directory (after the death of his father, Sam:
R Miliband living W11 Ralph Miliband NW1 Ralph Miliband NW3
woman on a raft
· 10 months ago
Mandy's Diary
Hattie got to Jacs before I could on Sunday morning. The bitch must have camped out at the studio: "Don't worry, I've briefed the Minister and dressed her" she trilled and did that revolting hip-bumping thing. Result: Jacs looked like a stuffed budgie. How many times must I tell them; contrast buttons on breast pockets just make you look like your nipples are floating up to your ears. Hatts looked at me with that half-smirk on her face "Yes, Pete, but if they are looking at her floating nipples they won't listen to what she's saying." That explains her own giraffe print with the legover-of-mutton-dressed-as-lamb sleeves, I suppose.
Much to my relief, the Taxpayers Alliance have explained how I came by my money. Thank goodness, now perhaps people will understand I earned every penny and really need the re-location allowance. London is shockingly expensive.
Gordon instructed Northern Rock to lend 14bn of money to people in order to get the economy moving, so I'm straight over there to apply for a mortgage and do my bit to help, like I did in Notting Hill. Hope I get more thanks than before, but I've grown accustomed to ingratitude. It doesn't bother me any more. I never give it a moment's thought.
Legs Deripaska called but he didn't mention if the cruise is on for this summer. He did mention a £40m loan - but I think he meant from us to him, rather than the more useful other way round. Immediately after that was a call from Vlad Putin complaining that the Pope gets an invite, Obama gets an invite and the Chinaman was over here recently, so where's his stiffie? I said I had no idea he wanted to visit, and he could come any time he liked but Brenda might have a previous engagement and she just won't change her chiropodist visits. You know how they get at that age. He said he didn't want to come, he just wanted to turn down the invitation.
pp
· 10 months ago
Steve Tierney
You couldn't be more wrong.
We (the british taxpayer) foot the bill for this corruption - we never said it was OK.
If you steal coffee from the staff room on the say so of your direct boss, but then the big boss finds out and thinks otherwise, you are all fucked -- and rightly so.
NEVER EVER DO ANYTHING YOU WOULD NOT ADMIT TO.
COS IF YOU DO, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BOTHERED TO KEEP OUR INTEGRITY WILL FUCK YOUR THIEVING ARSES INTO THE FUCKING GROUND.
(sorry about the caps, I couldn't find the green ink)
cesars wife
· 10 months ago
hold on a minute ban 100% mortgages then northern rock annouces 90% mortgages.
so tax payers money is going to be used to create a mortgage instrument worth 14bn , i thought thinking on the rock was to make it safe by winding down .
this is tax payers money right ??
this is a gamble right being as if full blown recession house rices will fall further .
why put a vunerable bank into another gamble??
public purse does not need handing over to more risks .
somthing well dodgey , being as new home owners are the young and are likely to suffer the recession more than a couple .
granite had better not be getting any or northern rock foundation, nother complex ponzi scheme
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL GUNSHOP
· 10 months ago
cant we just skip this moaning and handwringing phase and move on to dragging the bastards from downing street, giving them a quick fair trial(say 20 minuits) and then hanging them.
O/T Perhaps we could form a huge lottery syndicate with SO17.
William
· 10 months ago
It's really very common, in all walks of life and in all jobs, if a 'perk' is allowable in the rules people take advantage of it.
Yes, but we are not paying for it!
BEAR FIGHTS IN OUR ROAD
· 10 months ago
Northern Rock is to embark on a £14bn mortgage sales drive to resuscitate Britain’s sluggish housing market, fuelled by a hefty injection of fresh government funding for the state-owned lender to be announced Monday. Northern Rock will split into a “good bank/bad bank” structure, allowing it to lend about £5bn of new mortgages in 2009 and £9bn from 2010, depending on market demand and funding, the government said Sunday night.
Javelin
· 10 months ago
Brown and Darling show a complete contempt for taxpayers hard earnt savings. They spend hundreds of billions propping up banks why should they think twice about a few hundred thousand as a perk for all this hard work they are putting in.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Explaining some oddities in his financial transactions with houses Milliband's explanation of a 5 year delay in updating Land Registry was:
"The reason they did not change it before is they just did not get around to it. It’s complicated and expensive. It took a while for them to find a lawyer who could do it. All taxes have been paid in full.’"
Yeah right. Conveying a house is so complex. That's why it takes us all 5 years.
And WHEN were the taxes paid?
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
“Cultured people are merely the glittering scum which floats upon the deep river of production.” W. S. Churchill
cassandra
· 10 months ago
The retarded mong McMental and his brainless puppet are trying to reinflate the property bubble with billions more taxslave cash, money that will have to paid by generations of taxlsaves for decades! The fucking imbecile and his walking tape recorder are encouraging people to buy at highly inflated prices in a falling market, that is criminal! The only sector left with secure jobs now is the grossly obese state sector and when the inevitble slimming down of the state sector comes then those people will be in negative equity with no fucking jobs!
Well done McMental, you have just outdone yourself in the madhouse loony Alice in wonderland insanity you do so well! McMental is so desperate to cling onto power he is prepared to ruin the lives of the tens of thousands of people stupid enough to go for these loans!
Oldrightie
· 10 months ago
It really is a mad house. Sorry, that's unfair to mad houses!
Dennis
· 10 months ago
Woman on a Raft
Luv it! More, please!
Winston Smith
· 10 months ago
Keep at this Guido - the MPs and MEPs need to understand that they can't steal from us. Just because it is 'within the rules' doesn't mean it's OK Madam Home Secretary, you thieving cow. They know they are screwing us and it's disgusting.
Right Bastard
· 10 months ago
Morning All
For those of you that don't know, I would like to thank you, the British taxpayer for providing me with the capital to enable me to buy/develop my business premises. I would also like to thank you for paying all the interest on the capital whilst my investment increases in value and the profits from the pharmacy sideline enhance my grossly inflated salary which that nice man, Dr John Reid, kindly arranged for us. He also gave us a choice to work less hours which we took him up on as you'll agree because we all worked far too hard. This has had an unexpected benefit in that I can now spend a lot of this precious spare time on the golf course with my medical friends. Looking forward to sticking my finger up your collective arses in due course.
Your friendly GP
Gordons Arsed You UK
· 10 months ago
IMF spokesman view on Brown £500bn stimulus - you're all up queer street.
Aethelred
· 10 months ago
The minimum standard for MPs should be the same standards that the Law/HMRC apply to local councillors, teachers and small businesses.
The "comedian" Mark Steel(e?) was on the radio boasting about his nicking money from his employer in the 70s when he was a petrol pump monkey.
It's the socialist mind-set: "property is theft, so I'll nick it back again."
Swiss Bob
· 10 months ago
"Now if nobody else did that, you could see you were technically not in the spirit of the rules. But if everybody else did it, and the boss knew and said it was okay, and you asked the office 'supervisor' and they also confirmed it was okay... would you be wrong to keep your home cupboard stocked? Would you refuse to do so?"
This imaginary Father Christmas would be fine if it were his coffee to give away but not if he is giving away 'our' coffee FFS.
I'm sure I could be very generous with your possessions and would be quite happy to give them away to almost anyone.
"cesars wife said... hold on a minute ban 100% mortgages then northern rock annouces 90% mortgages.
so tax payers money is going to be used to create a mortgage instrument worth 14bn , i thought thinking on the rock was to make it safe by winding down .
this is tax payers money right ??
this is a gamble right being as if full blown recession house rices will fall further .
why put a vunerable bank into another gamble??
public purse does not need handing over to more risks .
somthing well dodgey , being as new home owners are the young and are likely to suffer the recession more than a couple .
granite had better not be getting any or northern rock foundation, nother complex ponzi scheme
February 23, 2009 1:22 AM"
The idea was for NR to sell off the good stuff on its books and pay back the taxpayers wad shoved in there courtesy of G. Brown (fuckwits-R-Us). NR has done this - you must have heard the BBC trumpeting the achievement - "NR pays back half the taxpayers investment" (subtext: 'See how wonderful the Glorious (and Courageous) Leader is: Marvel at his wisdom, wonder at his foresight.')
This left the slight problem of the 'Toxic Debt' - the mortgages that have no chance of being repaid on houses that have collapsed in value - the stuff that crashed the bank in the first place hasn't gone away. Brown has come up with this wizard wheeze. He is going to start NR lending again at commercial rates; as the 'Labourgraph' puts it: "a good deal for the taxpayer" and McDoom is going to dilute the debt that remains on the books. In short he is using the model that got us into the mess in the first place: subprime lending parcelled up with AAA rated debts and floated onto the market - only in this case McThievingScum has a captive market - us.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
There are 4 voters in our family household. We were going to vote Tory (we all hate Zanulab), but we really cannot see any real difference between them. All MPs/MEPs/ and the rest of 'em are just lining their own pockets at the publics expense.
The tories are fucking it up big time. They need to get rid off these porky bastards and flush out with a good dose of VIM.
To be honest, you may as well stay indoors for the next GE.
pp
· 10 months ago
quickness of the hand @9:37
Yes I noticed that too 'Northern Rock has loads of money because it has paid back most of the loan it had from the tax payer'.
What? so it has paid some (not all) back, so the taxpayer lends that back to them again ???
Yes, really positive stuff - just shows that it couldn't really afford to have paid it back in the first place...
The REAL answer... NR are completely bankrupt, the taxpayer is massively out of pocket, brown/darling used our money to buy a pup. The only way of 'hiding' this from us is to try to make it into a successful growing company and hope it makes enough that the losses aren't too big, or at least don't show up before the election.
Cunts - Brown/Darling don't have a clue how to make money - the banks are the experts in making money - you tap the government for it - easy!
Only problem... the government can't tap themselves... Oh yes they can! They can issue bonds, and print money to buy them!
Only problem... the taxpayer eventually picks up the bill...
Half eyed Scottish idiot
· 10 months ago
Jacqui Klebb is supposed to pay her sister about £100 per week.
She must be getting a good deal. Judging by the size of her, she must trough more than that a week in Mars bars.
jac
· 10 months ago
All this "it's in the Rules" rubbish drives me mad. Like hell it is. Do the Rules say it's OK to claim money you haven't spent? Do they say it's OK to doss down in your sister's spare room occasionally and claim £24,000 PER YEAR for that? Do they say it's OK to say your sister's spare room is your main home, when the only home you actually own is lived in by your husband and children? No they don't - and generously written as they are so MPs can take the taxpayer for an all-expenses-paid ride - this generous they aren't. Why don't any of the interviewers actually ask the questions everyone else is shouting at the TV? Well, not the BBC of course, because they operate as yet another scam on the taxpayer, and a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Labour Party - but the others......
Steve Tierney
· 10 months ago
Wow. I don't usually get people responding to my comments on here.
PP;- I think you misunderstood my comment. Have another look. Your proposal that the 'bigger boss' might look badly on 'stealing coffee' misses the point I made. There wasn't a 'bigger boss' in my argument, it was the top boss who set the rules. Also it wasn't 'stealing' because it was specifically agreed by everybody the employee checked it with.
Now I enjoy a debate as much as the next guy and I welcome your response. But if you're gonna CAPITALISE and swear at me, at least take the time to read and understand what I've written.
I'm with you, you know. I don't like this was of taxpayer money either. But if its within the rules (it is in some, but not all cases) then its the rules that need changing. I love having a pop at Labour too, I just think 'fair' is better than 'easy' for targetting, in the long run.
Another commentor said: "But its not US thats paying for it."
- I understand and agree with the sentiment, but its not quite correct. When somebody steals additional coffee, eventually, through the work of markets, we do all pay for it. It just takes a while and comes through a very convoluted route.
jac
· 10 months ago
Steve Tierney, 2.10pm - but the scenario you give could never be stealing, because the person who owns the coffee (assuming that's the big boss you refer to) is the owner of said coffee and entitled to give it to whoever he likes. Him giving his staff coffee may fairly be considered a perk of the job. He owns it, he chooses to give it to his employees.
However, Jacqui Smith ripping off the taxpayer by untruthfully saying her sister's back bedroom is her "main home" is hardly the same thing!
Fred Fartwell
· 10 months ago
The allegation about Darling does not surprise me in the slightest.
What else would one expect from a (and don't try and tell me 'former') Marxist?
They're all at it. Lembit O'Pickled rented out his London flat whilst living with Sian Lloyd in Camden. He also claimed for his house in his constituency, whilst she paid the mortgage there. The man's a total disgrace - a grasping buffoon. The sooner he's investigated the better
All Comments
British expenses for British MPs
wibble wibble hatstand wibble.
wow I could do this ......talk shite and steal like your life depends on it.
He may own the flat, but he isn't entitkled to the allowance unless he lives in oit, because it isn't his "residence".
So if he's getting a "stern ticking off" from MPs for putting £1,600 off the books, I assume that when his tragic ghost-of-a-chancellor anncounces he's going to bailout the PFI farce for £4,000,000,000, also off the books, a proportional punishment would be what exactly? Evisceration?
The £1600 sounds pretty trivial compared to all those Tory failures to declare. GOO and his backers, Duncan and his backers, Spelman and her secretary/nursemaid, you know the rest.
You will lose your heard earned reputation for "fair play" Guido if you don't tackle Ashcroft for one thing, and namecheck a few more scheming Tory home owners for another.
More on Grayling
Musings on Baron Belize and
Is dodgy Michael Spencer still Tory Treasurer>
I think MPs should all be given a £40,000 pay rise consolidating their tax free allowances. And moonlighting should be severly restricted in scope and quantum.
I guess that's why they were so keen to keep house prices inflated.
Four homes good, two homes bad.
Those troughing scum make me sick. Hooning Nulab cunts.
wv = atorying! wtf
My favourite is the third one. You can almost hear the window of the white van being wound down and a builders head poking out and shouting as he passes Downing Street..
"You are SO bad at your job mate!"
250+ comments and only Polly and Dolly supporting him.
If he can't get support at the Observer then he really has lost the dressing room.
Time to find a former Messiah to take over and lead the faithful away from relegation.
A choice between Kevin Keegan Blair
or Joe Kinnear Kinnock.
"I think MPs should all be given a £40,000 pay rise consolidating their tax free allowances. And moonlighting should be severly restricted in scope and quantum."
You're kidding, right? What fucking planet have you been living on? Most of these bastards deserve a £40000 pay cut.
Would be surprised if they nail Ashcroft.
it makes me fucking sick and angry.
seriously, if there was a riot in central london tomorrow I'd jump right in there.
smash the place to shit I would.
GOD I'm FUCKING ANGRY!!!!! :(
"Four homes good, two homes bad."
BRILLIANT!!!
putting people first!
ie themselves!
(where did Brown get his money to buy his 2 properties)?
Fucking delicious!
Telegraph reporting that Desperate Brown plans £500billion bank gamble
A £500 billion banking bail-out will be at the centre of a rescue package announced by Gordon Brown this week amid desperation over the Government’s failure to save the economy.
we are sooo fucked!
Let's watch eh?
Iain Dale 9:52 AM
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I was so convined that Dolly and Labour list would have come close as well
I have put the Ex- Spetznaz blokes on standby at the moment.
This issue of expenses makes me fucking laugh. Why not take it out the hands of the 'House' authoritys and give the whole job to the Inland revenue Family tax fucking credit dept.
Then an MP would know what it is like to have to justify every penny and then get the full wrath of khan for a fuck up the revenue made.
'You are guilty till you prove your own innocence' attitude to these cunts wouldn't do them any harm.
It's really very common, in all walks of life and in all jobs, if a 'perk' is allowable in the rules people take advantage of it.
If your boss tells you that you may have "all the coffee you like, the store cupboard is kept fully stocked" you could just drink lots of cups a day.
But you could also give it to all your friends, take huge tubs home for your own use etc.
Now if nobody else did that, you could see you were technically not in the spirit of the rules. But if everybody else did it, and the boss knew and said it was okay, and you asked the office 'supervisor' and they also confirmed it was okay... would you be wrong to keep your home cupboard stocked? Would you refuse to do so?
I'm not saying they're in the right. I'm just saying it may not be the 'hanging offense' we'd initially maybe like it to be.
Surely what's needed, now this scam is becoming so obvious, is to change the rules? Job done. Unless every stone-thrower out there is prepared to systematically say, given a perk like this which was entirely legal and in-the-rules to use, they wouldn't have done so themselves?
Dear Guido,
I am in a job that, frankly, I can't cope with. To be honest, which is very rare for me, I haven't got a clue what I am doing. And the more confused I get the more stupid things I seem to do.
All I know is, I'm in shit street, in a dead end, and, because only nutters listen to me now, I can't bluff me way out of this one. I'm broke, I can't pay my debts. Worse, I've got a lot of other people in a mess and many are looking to me to sort out the trouble I've caused. And some overseas nonsense is coming back to haunt me.
Can you advise me please? Everyone else I know says I'm crap, and should give up. What do you think? Would a post at the World Bank suit me?
GB
Londistan
Let's ban 100% mortgages! Yes more houses for us to buy.
Grr
Fuckwits.
Henry McLeish got the bum rush from the Scottish Parliament for not declaring office rent!!!
Bum rush for Brown!!!!!
the lib/lab/con must go, and new parties be allowed to contest for the peoples votes.
Isn't the problem that mortgages were 10 times salary (and possibly 150%)?
Get a grip gordo!
I can't wait to see him approach the IMF when we are currently 300% of GDP in debt.
"I claimed less money this year than I did last year"
"I also don't think in this country that most MPs, of whatever party, are on the make. I genuinely don't think that".
Well that's all right then.
For fuck's sake!!!!
Guido, the folowing is from the 1967 telephone directory (after the death of his father, Sam:
R Miliband living W11
Ralph Miliband NW1
Ralph Miliband NW3
Hattie got to Jacs before I could on Sunday morning. The bitch must have camped out at the studio: "Don't worry, I've briefed the Minister and dressed her" she trilled and did that revolting hip-bumping thing. Result: Jacs looked like a stuffed budgie. How many times must I tell them; contrast buttons on breast pockets just make you look like your nipples are floating up to your ears. Hatts looked at me with that half-smirk on her face "Yes, Pete, but if they are looking at her floating nipples they won't listen to what she's saying." That explains her own giraffe print with the legover-of-mutton-dressed-as-lamb sleeves, I suppose.
Much to my relief, the Taxpayers Alliance have explained how I came by my money. Thank goodness, now perhaps people will understand I earned every penny and really need the re-location allowance. London is shockingly expensive.
Gordon instructed Northern Rock to lend 14bn of money to people in order to get the economy moving, so I'm straight over there to apply for a mortgage and do my bit to help, like I did in Notting Hill. Hope I get more thanks than before, but I've grown accustomed to ingratitude. It doesn't bother me any more. I never give it a moment's thought.
Legs Deripaska called but he didn't mention if the cruise is on for this summer. He did mention a £40m loan - but I think he meant from us to him, rather than the more useful other way round. Immediately after that was a call from Vlad Putin complaining that the Pope gets an invite, Obama gets an invite and the Chinaman was over here recently, so where's his stiffie? I said I had no idea he wanted to visit, and he could come any time he liked but Brenda might have a previous engagement and she just won't change her chiropodist visits. You know how they get at that age. He said he didn't want to come, he just wanted to turn down the invitation.
You couldn't be more wrong.
We (the british taxpayer) foot the bill for this corruption - we never said it was OK.
If you steal coffee from the staff room on the say so of your direct boss, but then the big boss finds out and thinks otherwise, you are all fucked -- and rightly so.
NEVER EVER DO ANYTHING YOU WOULD NOT ADMIT TO.
COS IF YOU DO, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BOTHERED TO KEEP OUR INTEGRITY WILL FUCK YOUR THIEVING ARSES INTO THE FUCKING GROUND.
(sorry about the caps, I couldn't find the green ink)
so tax payers money is going to be used to create a mortgage instrument worth 14bn , i thought thinking on the rock was to make it safe by winding down .
this is tax payers money right ??
this is a gamble right being as if full blown recession house rices will fall further .
why put a vunerable bank into another gamble??
public purse does not need handing over to more risks .
somthing well dodgey , being as new home owners are the young and are likely to suffer the recession more than a couple .
granite had better not be getting any or northern rock foundation, nother complex ponzi scheme
O/T Perhaps we could form a huge lottery syndicate with SO17.
Yes, but we are not paying for it!
"The reason they did not change it before is they just did not get around to it. It’s complicated and expensive. It took a while for them to find a lawyer who could do it. All taxes have been paid in full.’"
Yeah right. Conveying a house is so complex. That's why it takes us all 5 years.
And WHEN were the taxes paid?
the deep river of production.” W. S. Churchill
The fucking imbecile and his walking tape recorder are encouraging people to buy at highly inflated prices in a falling market, that is criminal!
The only sector left with secure jobs now is the grossly obese state sector and when the inevitble slimming down of the state sector comes then those people will be in negative equity with no fucking jobs!
Well done McMental, you have just outdone yourself in the madhouse loony Alice in wonderland insanity you do so well!
McMental is so desperate to cling onto power he is prepared to ruin the lives of the tens of thousands of people stupid enough to go for these loans!
Luv it! More, please!
For those of you that don't know, I would like to thank you, the British taxpayer for providing me with the capital to enable me to buy/develop my business premises. I would also like to thank you for paying all the interest on the capital whilst my investment increases in value and the profits from the pharmacy sideline enhance my grossly inflated salary which that nice man, Dr John Reid, kindly arranged for us. He also gave us a choice to work less hours which we took him up on as you'll agree because we all worked far too hard. This has had an unexpected benefit in that I can now spend a lot of this precious spare time on the golf course with my medical friends.
Looking forward to sticking my finger up your collective arses in due course.
Your friendly GP
The "comedian" Mark Steel(e?) was on the radio boasting about his nicking money from his employer in the 70s when he was a petrol pump monkey.
It's the socialist mind-set: "property is theft, so I'll nick it back again."
This imaginary Father Christmas would be fine if it were his coffee to give away but not if he is giving away 'our' coffee FFS.
I'm sure I could be very generous with your possessions and would be quite happy to give them away to almost anyone.
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hold on a minute ban 100% mortgages then northern rock annouces 90% mortgages.
so tax payers money is going to be used to create a mortgage instrument worth 14bn , i thought thinking on the rock was to make it safe by winding down .
this is tax payers money right ??
this is a gamble right being as if full blown recession house rices will fall further .
why put a vunerable bank into another gamble??
public purse does not need handing over to more risks .
somthing well dodgey , being as new home owners are the young and are likely to suffer the recession more than a couple .
granite had better not be getting any or northern rock foundation, nother complex ponzi scheme
February 23, 2009 1:22 AM"
The idea was for NR to sell off the good stuff on its books and pay back the taxpayers wad shoved in there courtesy of G. Brown (fuckwits-R-Us). NR has done this - you must have heard the BBC trumpeting the achievement - "NR pays back half the taxpayers investment" (subtext: 'See how wonderful the Glorious (and Courageous) Leader is: Marvel at his wisdom, wonder at his foresight.')
This left the slight problem of the 'Toxic Debt' - the mortgages that have no chance of being repaid on houses that have collapsed in value - the stuff that crashed the bank in the first place hasn't gone away.
Brown has come up with this wizard wheeze. He is going to start NR lending again at commercial rates; as the 'Labourgraph' puts it: "a good deal for the taxpayer" and McDoom is going to dilute the debt that remains on the books.
In short he is using the model that got us into the mess in the first place: subprime lending parcelled up with AAA rated debts and floated onto the market - only in this case McThievingScum has a captive market - us.
The tories are fucking it up big time. They need to get rid off these porky bastards and flush out with a good dose of VIM.
To be honest, you may as well stay indoors for the next GE.
Yes I noticed that too 'Northern Rock has loads of money because it has paid back most of the loan it had from the tax payer'.
What? so it has paid some (not all) back, so the taxpayer lends that back to them again ???
Yes, really positive stuff - just shows that it couldn't really afford to have paid it back in the first place...
The REAL answer... NR are completely bankrupt, the taxpayer is massively out of pocket, brown/darling used our money to buy a pup. The only way of 'hiding' this from us is to try to make it into a successful growing company and hope it makes enough that the losses aren't too big, or at least don't show up before the election.
Cunts - Brown/Darling don't have a clue how to make money - the banks are the experts in making money - you tap the government for it - easy!
Only problem... the government can't tap themselves... Oh yes they can! They can issue bonds, and print money to buy them!
Only problem... the taxpayer eventually picks up the bill...
She must be getting a good deal. Judging by the size of her, she must trough more than that a week in Mars bars.
Do they say it's OK to say your sister's spare room is your main home, when the only home you actually own is lived in by your husband and children?
No they don't - and generously written as they are so MPs can take the taxpayer for an all-expenses-paid ride - this generous they aren't.
Why don't any of the interviewers actually ask the questions everyone else is shouting at the TV? Well, not the BBC of course, because they operate as yet another scam on the taxpayer, and a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Labour Party - but the others......
PP;-
I think you misunderstood my comment. Have another look. Your proposal that the 'bigger boss' might look badly on 'stealing coffee' misses the point I made. There wasn't a 'bigger boss' in my argument, it was the top boss who set the rules. Also it wasn't 'stealing' because it was specifically agreed by everybody the employee checked it with.
Now I enjoy a debate as much as the next guy and I welcome your response. But if you're gonna CAPITALISE and swear at me, at least take the time to read and understand what I've written.
I'm with you, you know. I don't like this was of taxpayer money either. But if its within the rules (it is in some, but not all cases) then its the rules that need changing. I love having a pop at Labour too, I just think 'fair' is better than 'easy' for targetting, in the long run.
Another commentor said:
"But its not US thats paying for it."
- I understand and agree with the sentiment, but its not quite correct. When somebody steals additional coffee, eventually, through the work of markets, we do all pay for it. It just takes a while and comes through a very convoluted route.
Him giving his staff coffee may fairly be considered a perk of the job. He owns it, he chooses to give it to his employees.
However, Jacqui Smith ripping off the taxpayer by untruthfully saying her sister's back bedroom is her "main home" is hardly the same thing!
What else would one expect from a (and don't try and tell me 'former') Marxist?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alistair_Darling#Early_life