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emotionally incontinent engerl — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:43:00 -0000

yeah

ivan you were the queen of peoples hearts

im going to cash my benefit cheque in your honour little man

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Stu Palmer — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:19:00 -0000

creepy display fake of emotion on here. Everyone doing their best to menstruate in true guardian fashion.

leave DC and family their privacy and get back to the politics

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DaveA — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:57:00 -0000

I am sure we cannot even begin to understand the pain and desolation that the Camerons are feel.

May God rest his soul.

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sitush — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:35:00 -0000

It is sad, for sure, but no more sad than the loss of any other child to any other family & should not be raised to any higher level because that then demeans those other families. I find this mawkishness, which seems to have burgeoned since the death of Diana, most obscene. I'm sorry, but it is not as if the Cameron family are anything special to deserve this ridiculous outpouring of emotion - do these contributors weep daily at every entry in the Deaths column of a newspaper? Perhaps they are all from Liverpool? (Apologies to the rational Liverpudlians, but that city does have a certain reputation in recent years for extreme communal reactions regarding non-personal events - and it devalues the entire canon).

How many of the "oozing sympathy" idiots above actually have any understanding or any genuine concern? Some, for sure, but not many. It is easy to write a note in order to make yourself feel better.

I was born disabled, by the way, and apparently have a limited span - which I am testing hard! I want no sympathy, and most certainly would hope that communal fantasists and emotional degenerates keep well away from my family when the INEVITABLE happens.

This is a private moment, as is all death. The Cameron family have asked for privacy and yet still the outpourings from meaningless, disconnected people continues. Do you really think that it adds anything to the sum of what is a very personal, very intense, very private event?

Robinson was right on this one. He has to treat it in an emotionally neutral way and report it in the context of his specialism. To do otherwise would be to exhibit far more bias than the accusations levelled at him here.

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Cynosarges — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:00:00 -0000

Following up on the Nick Robinson spin.

Not only did Michael White echo this line, but Robin Lustig also used it on "The World Tonight". Either the BBC has only one writer for all it's political news (and he has a spare-time job with the Guardian) or we have apparent evidence that NuLabour was cynically conducting a spin operation against Cameron.

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Simon — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:27:00 -0000

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Anonymous — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:19:00 -0000

"Ken (February 25, 2009 9:43 AM) reported that he heard 'Nick "Toenails" Robinson say on the BBC that Cameron can't expect any electoral advantage from this tragic event "as Gordon Brown has already lost a child of his own".'

But Ken was lying though (got to wonder about someone who's first thought on hearing of the death of Cameron's disabled son is 'this is a good day to start spreading some shit about Nick Robinson' well done to him though, the story's certainly done the rounds)

A couple of the other blogs he was offering his wisdom to have retracted posts they've made, good to see you lot are still at it.

http://inthebrown.blogspot....

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Anonymous — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:25:00 -0000

Pisspoor comment from the Twat of Clerkenwell, utter puerile [sic] logic.

WV: uncut

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Cynosarges — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:13:00 -0000

Ken (February 25, 2009 9:43 AM) reported that he heard 'Nick "Toenails" Robinson say on the BBC that Cameron can't expect any electoral advantage from this tragic event "as Gordon Brown has already lost a child of his own".'

I note that the 'reasonable' face of The Guardian's NuLab apologists used almost exactly the same wording in an article in Wednesday's Guardian online.

A suspicious mind might well consider that we are seeing Mandleson's spin machine distributing the "line" for their tame commentators to parrot.

Any other occurrences of this spin seen???

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The Two-Minute Hate — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:43:00 -0000

You're angry at the insensitivity of the Robinson creep? You sickeningly sanctimonious slippery snakes.

Who do we send the pizza to?

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J.J. — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:08:00 -0000

That's so sad. I give my prayers and symphathies to the Camerons.

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Minekiller — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:42:00 -0000

My heartfelt condolences to the Cameron family for the loss of their little boy Ivan.

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electro-kevin — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:49:00 -0000

My sympathies.

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DGM — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:08:00 -0000

C'mon guys, there should be nothing on here accept condolencies, character assasinations and politics can wait for another time.
Our sympathy goes to the Camerons

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Anonymous — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:41:00 -0000

sincere condolences to David and his family

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Steve — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:14:00 -0000

ha, fascinating. Now that the comments by Toenails have been debunked, the hate continues through grasping at "implied" agenda. Perhaps it is a little hypocritical for so many of you to compain about bias?

(by the way, before anyone accuses me of being a Brownite, i have hated New Labour since the moment I first heard of it!)

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Peter Grimes — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:12:00 -0000

James 2.07 pm

I would not be at all surprised to find you worked for Al-JaBeeba given your illiterate post. You and the BBC go well together!

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Anonymous — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:03:00 -0000

David Cameron is (after the politics) - a very decent human being and a father.

Some of the tattle going on is a complete disgrace.

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FuckThebbc — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:00 -0000

Not good enough BJ.

The fuckwit Robinson turned the news of the Camerons' tragic loss into a story about Gordon Brown.

Fuck you, fuck Robinson and fuck all the lefty cunts at the bbc.

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Anonymous — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:38:00 -0000

Fucking hell. This might sound strange, but until today I'm afraid that all of the childish bickering between parties and the incessant point-scoring had lead me to completely forget that Britain's political figures are human. Condolences to David and his family.

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The BBC are vermin — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:30:00 -0000

Never take anything the BBC says at face value.
Always get independent verification.

And that goes for their toadies, cronies and lackies as well

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crackers — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:27:00 -0000

Beast

"Fuckin great PR though"

Think about that line. Rest of comment OK.

"Fuckin great PR though"

Not your best comment.

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Anonymous — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:10:00 -0000

Mitch 1.45

It's not really fair enough. Someone on Iain Dale refers to some comments Robinson made in response to a BBC anchorman in the studio about gaining the sympathy vote:

"Nick Robinson responded to a question from one of the BBC anchors, the fact that he even bothered to respond to such a disgraceful question was wrong.

So, I for one will not go easy on him, I do not know him personally, so I can only judge him on how he responded to the question.

It seems that the majority of the 'Westminster Village' insiders, are totally out of step with public opinion, biased political reporting is never good, and as we have just seen Mr Robinson has proved just how unethical he really is."

https://www.blogger.com/com...

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James — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:07:00 -0000

"I have just been angered to hear Nick "Toenails" Robinson say on the BBC that Cameron can't expect any electoral advantage from this tragic event "as Gordon Brown has already lost a child of his own"."

Nick Robinson wasn't even broadcasting of any of the BBC channels between the news breaking at 09.26am and this commenter's post at 09.43am.

I know, I've checked the tapes.

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Anonymous — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:56:00 -0000

Get toenails out