Fucking unbelievable. Ballot stuffing on a par with Mugabe.
Rab C. Nesbitt
· 10 months ago
Desperation to maintain a grip on power, the government take election rigging tips from Zimbabwe.
Jowell-Mills Mortgage Advisory
· 10 months ago
Cheating Red Jocks!
OT - Jowell says (to Progress) that Labour should be on the side of the aspirational.
She is certainly aspirational.
Martin Bright's defence of her at the weekend was laughable.
Apparently, ministers quite like her and she can hold her own in dinner table conversation.
Fancy that - she should run the country.
No mention of the fact that Bright and Jowell are fellow dinners at London's top restaurants (in Jowell's words, "Nothing's too good for the working class!")
Jowell? Working class?
DELUSIONAL!!!
Jumbo Jet
· 10 months ago
Labour = filth
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
You must be wrong Guido. BBC Radio Scotland are reporting that the Electoral Commission gave the election arrangements full marks (apart from the Sheriff Clerk losing the register of who voted).
So it's "move along there-nothing to see" as usual.
Johnny Norfolk
· 10 months ago
You would never have had this sort of thing under the Tories. They should hold the by election again.
talwin
· 10 months ago
Forewarned is forearmed!
Swiss Bob
· 10 months ago
The Zimbabwe of Europe.
The judge said he regretted the government had dismissed recent warnings about the system's failings as "scaremongering".
He pointed to a government statement which said: "The systems already in place to deal with the allegations of electoral fraud are clearly working."
Mr Mawrey said: "Anybody who has sat through the case I have just tried and listened to evidence of electoral fraud that would disgrace a banana republic would find this statement surprising...
"The systems to deal with fraud are not working well," he said. "They are not working badly. The fact is that there are no systems to deal realistically with fraud and there never have been. Until there are, fraud will continue unabated."
This was the NuLab Pilot Project for Electoral Victory. We can be certain that 'lessons will be learned' and that next time these 'errors' will not be so glaringly obvious.
A lack of appropriate subtlety when rigging the ballot is absolutely unforgiveable. It doesn't do to rub the electorate's noses in it.
Carlos
· 10 months ago
Keep digging, Guido, keep digging. There must be more to this!
Faux Cu
· 10 months ago
This has been widely trailed in Scotland, not necessarily the detail but the absurdity of the vote, especially the postal section. 7 fucking thousand!
Postal vote rigging is nothing new for ZaNuLab but this one takes the McVittie's Rich Tea.
There has been much humorous speculation in Scottish political blogs that McCavity Broon will declare a national emergency just before whenever the next General Election comes and only permit it, in the name of maintaining the Queen's Peace, that only posta votes will be permitted.
Wee shit Doogie Alexander, Minister for Colonial Affairs and Electoral Adviser to Mugabe's regime, is working on it as we speak.
jgm2
· 10 months ago
Hmmmmm. And no doubt sufficient of the original ballot papers have gone 'astray' and of course the register has gone walkabout too.
Good job Labour. Still it represents a phyrric victory for the Labour war on truth, transparency, democracy and decency. For they will not be able to pull this stunt in the General election. Cameron - and, more relevantly in Scotland, Salmond will be able to make much political capital about ensuring all votes are subject to independent scrutiny and that there are no 'hidden' counts.
Not a sheep
· 10 months ago
I fear that Labour will not allow the possibility of losing the next general election. It is possible that they will try and use the CCA to avoid an election but if they have to gold an election then elements within the party may use dodgy postal ballots, odd counting controls and maybe even voter intimidation to try and secure a victory.
spookhouse
· 10 months ago
Police Chiefs gather to discuss dangers of a riotous summer. Then announce reductions in PC numbers. Is that a green light or what?
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
The Glenrothes by-election may or may not have been rigged: but the fact that such a prospect is being seriously entertained damns Brown, this Government and ZaNuLabour.
dutch
· 10 months ago
Good grief, tables in the wrong places? Better off living in Burma.
Muppet
· 10 months ago
And what will be done?
Nothing.
Calamity Jane
· 10 months ago
Dream on dumb asses. There weren't enough postal votes to make a difference.
Yee haw!
Faux Cu
· 10 months ago
I forgot, immediately after the election the winner Lindsay Roy, aka Roy Hud, disappeared into the obscurity of the Westmidden gravy train, never to be seen again until needs to be re-elected.
Re-elected! The Parliamentary side of my arse he will be.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Nothing to see here. Move along now.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
You can't get any more transparency then the proof that Labour rigged the by-election disappearing!
sir dando tweakshafte
· 10 months ago
The price, I'm afraid, of a politicised public service.
Only local government employees ever get to work on election administration, and the unions can be relied upon to direct their members' efforts.
The wheeze involves taking a day's paid leave and then getting paid again for a day at the polling station, or else getting triple over-time in the evening at the count.
Anyone not counting correctly simply won't be asked back on board the gravy train.
Simples, as my meerkat friend Aleksandr always says.
The deranged lunatic Brown is
· 10 months ago
As well as fiddling elections the government is also making the awful economic situation even worse:
"....This weekend, Gordon Brown argued that he wanted to see an end to profligate lending and 'the reinvention of the traditional savings and mortgage bank in Britain for loans to be made on prudent and careful terms.' Yet within hours of saying so, his own officials at Number 10 were letting it be known that Northern Rock would be allowed to grant 90 per cent mortgages. At a time when house prices are plummeting, many would regard the encouragement of 90 per cent mortgages as the height of folly - indeed, many banks and loan companies are currently only prepared to offer 75 per cent loan to equity ratios. Apart from the breathtaking humbug involved in preaching one policy and adopting another, we shouldn't perhaps be surprised by any of this.........
......by such frenetic and contradictory activity, the government has evoked a sense of panic - and fuelled the very instability it is trying to resolve."
But they'd argue that their ballot stuffing was acceptable as: "we had to ensure the right (sic) candidate got in!"
As in...
"I, Tarquin Fintimlinbinwhinbimlim Bus Stop F’tang F’tang It's Labour, Labour, Labour, all the Way, Ole Biscuit-Barrel, Returning Officer for Fife and Hwange, declare that Lindsay Robert Gabriel Mugabe Roy, CBE, OBE, FU2 and bar, is hereby returned as Memember of Parliament for Glenrothes and Matabeleland. And may God have mercy on your souls."
metabourke
· 10 months ago
Maybe EU/UN election monitors are required for the general election. The postal vote fiddles in Birmingham and other cities are getting out of control.
Time to bring in qualification for voting too. An IQ test, a civics test, and a minimum level of net tax paid (tax paid less welfare payment received) over the preceding four years.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Practice for the general election perhaps?s?.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
'Fucking unbelievable.'
Have you learnt nothing form the last 12 years. Everything is believable. And nothing is reported.
The whole fucking establishment is politicised. There is only one solution - and it won't be pretty.
bergen
· 10 months ago
I still wonder what the result of a legal challenge would be based on the disappearance of the marked register.I think an electoral court would be bound to order a rerun.Has any challenge been made?
Throbber
· 10 months ago
What do you expect? They are Labour, nothing must be allowed to get in the way of "the project". The ends justify the means. Labour = habitual liars and cheats.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Hanging chad type issues...
So the problem began in America then?
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Remember kids - VOTE EARLY, VOTE OFTEN..
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
..there are a lot of fishy things happening at the moment....the amount of time it is taking the CPS to come to a decision on David Abrahams et al for instance...could perhaps somebody be leaning on them...Nixon redux..
righty right wing (mrs)
· 10 months ago
Electoral Fraud = New Labour
As we have seen on countless occassions in the inner cities, especially the Birmingham Labour Councillors who stole ballots & committed fraud on an epic scale, Neo Labour will do anything to stay in power, even usurping democracy.
Those fine upstanding "British" Birmingham politico's were even caught red handed by the Police in a warehouse rammed with ballots, who did nothing at the time.
I am convinced that the General Election will be cancelled on some flimsy pretext.
Well Gordoom McStalin is following Mugabe's economic model to the letter, so why not follow his democratic style as well?
Electoral Fraud = Neo Labour
No Mandate = Gordon Brown
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
If a legal challenge to the Glenrothes result were mounted I suspect it would have to be a concerned citzen and Patriot that would have to do it. Step forward Ian Hamilton QC?
T$ny Bl£ir
· 10 months ago
The Labour Party are pretty straight kind of guys. We don't do cash for questions / cash for honours / dodgy expenses / dodgy postal votes / or any kind of sleaze that would make the tax payers think we were screwing them and filling our boots at every opportunity. Come on guys!
NuLabour OldSleaze
· 10 months ago
We know full well Labour are corrupt and that they used postal fraud at Glenrothes. The question is, how can we destroy them?
http://www.cctvstar.blogspot.com
Mr. Wishy-Washy, the leader of
· 10 months ago
Faux Cu said... February 24, 2009 9:26 AM
Did you sa Rich Tea....yes I know, it shows now doesn't it....hmmmm....Andy!
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Scotland was, and still is, a banana republic.
Problem is, the Scots have NO self respect-until they do, then their betters, the London govt, will continue to treat their petty little "nation" with the contempt it deserves!
CrassusCrassus
· 10 months ago
Perhaps the "missing" voting register is being kept in the same place as the "missing" log book of HMS Conqueror (the submarine that sank the Argie ARA General Belgrano).
The general election will be awash with nulab dirty vote-rigging but next time they should bear in mind that many don't just want nulab de-selected, they want them scourged and nailed to trees.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
NuLabour OldSleaze said...
We know full well Labour are corrupt and that they used postal fraud at Glenrothes. The question is, how can we destroy them?
Och, nothing wrong here. Why not just support my political career with a donation. Channel Islanders welcome. No registration required.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Speaking of the Electoral Commission I see another gutless organisation the Standards and Privileges committee are to rule on Spelman today, perhaps Jaqui Smith could doss around Carolines to save the Taxpayer a few hundred thousand quid.
The Inquisition
· 10 months ago
To avoid prosecution Ken Clarke when Health Secretary destroyed files on US imported Factor 8 that caused HIV/Aids and Hep C infections in Haemophiliacs, yes that did start in the US
Conservatives don't care
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Lord Copper
· 10 months ago
What is the difference between the Conservative and Labour tax and spending plans?
Alfie
· 10 months ago
As smelly as an Arbroath smokie after being stuffed into Gordon Brown's Y-fronts for the summer...
Andy O'Neill, head of the Elec
· 10 months ago
All stages of the election - from registration of electors to the counting of votes - went smoothly despite many challenges faced by the electoral administrators responsible for running the poll
Ajax
· 10 months ago
I do not trust any regulatory authority to be honest.
Labour have corrupted everything and everyone.
mitch
· 10 months ago
Ian Hamilton Q.C. - the guy who bought Lloyds shares and is now complaining he wasn't told they could go down in value? Yeah, right.
Q.C. = Quite (a) Cunt ?
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
"metabourke said... Maybe EU/UN election monitors are required for the general election. The postal vote fiddles in Birmingham and other cities are getting out of control.
Time to bring in qualification for voting too. An IQ test, a civics test, and a minimum level of net tax paid (tax paid less welfare payment received) over the preceding four years.
February 24, 2009 9:44 AM"
No. We don't change things. The English Civil War was fought to decide such matters. This was settled after the Putney Debates. Rainsborough and Ireton put both sides of the argument and a synthesis of the two PoV was incorporated into our constitution. I will give one concession for these times - a person must be able to read and write in English. The other tests are too open to 'finessing' by interested parties after a change in government.
Gordon Broon
· 10 months ago
it wasnae me
Armitage Shanks depth charge
· 10 months ago
the last people I would rely on to give me the "news" is the BBC or the dead tree press
they are so much up their own arses and politically biased they are in reality finished, it is only a matter of time
pete-s
· 10 months ago
I have just rung the Electoral Commission. Votes have to be kept for 10 years, so these are available. Plus all votes have a bar code on them so that the person who voted and how they voted can be identified. (yes, we have a SECRET voting system, not an anonymous system). So with a judges order, the register can be regenerated, and all votes can be recounted. There seems to be a reluctance to do the obvious.
the future is bright, the futu
· 10 months ago
""What is the difference between the Conservative and Labour tax and spending plans?""
The same difference they have in their policies towards Islam, immigration & the European Union - none what so ever.
That is why I am voting for the BNP - & I don't have jackboots, a skinhead, a Hitler fetish & I have never claimed benefits.
Strange I do not seem to fit the demographic profile that the BBC & the MSM constantly portray BNP voters to be.
The future is bright. The future is British - & I would like to give a hearty pat on the back to the main three parties & the BBC - keep up the excellent work on behalf of the BNP & British patriots everywhere.
See you at the ballot box.
iain
· 10 months ago
Clearly those cosy chats with Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness in Downing Street have been worthwhile. They've learned a lesson from the masters of vote-stealing.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Total Politics has dave doing his "worried look"! Anyone know if the brow is his?
frankowenspaintbrush
· 10 months ago
Erm...quite apart from how really, really ridiculous your little paranoid conspiracy fantasy is - the local council (i.e. the body running the count, the postal votes, and the marked register of electors, and the employer of the electoral officials in direct control of the same) is run by an SNP/Lib Dem coalition. So, how exactly could the Big Bad Labour have orchestrated this?
Stop the Waugh Coalition
· 10 months ago
I can't wait to hear what Ambrose Silk has to say about this. It'll be something involving the words 'silly people' and ending with 'Tra laa', and other obfuscatory claptrap that fails utterly to refute or argue effectively against Guido's point.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Stop the Waugh Coalition is clearly Cock Sucker and I claim my £5M
cassandra
· 10 months ago
Why are the big three so silent about Glenrothes? They are in on the biggest scam yet devised, the wholesale theft of BNP votes, the system is being put in place to hide/discount/nulify and spoil thousands of BNP votes, they did it in the London elections, the counters were binning thousands of BNP marked ballot papers, if they hadnt then easily two LA seats would have gone to the BNP, the system of ballot stuffing and result rigging is being put in place now, the alliance between the big three and the ultra leftist anti BNP factions is proof positive. The EU elections are a target, dozens of political activists are being recruited to do the dirty work.
Stalin said, 'its not who votes that counts, its who counts the votes'
The UK is being set up for an industrial scale vote rigging scam, the big three have counters and monitors ready to destroy votes by the tens/hundreds of thousands, democracy is being destroyed before your very eyes folks! The result of the EU/regional ballots has already been decided now, so much for democracy eh? Does anyone really think that these crooked westminster vermin are going to tollerate the ordinary voter kicking them out of office? Are any of you still so gullible that you believe these commissar vermin have a shred of decency and honour left in them? There is only ONE way to banish these parasites and that is by hanging the bastards off London Bridge!
You may hate the BNP but do you hate them enough to allow the parasites to rig rig whole elections in their own favour? When the parasites have denied the BNP their democratic rights who is next on the list?
Ambrose Silk
· 10 months ago
Silly people,
Tra laa!
Stop the Waugh Coalition
· 10 months ago
Anonymous 10.54 am.
I don't mind which illiterate troll proves my point, but you'll do.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
"The whole fucking establishment is politicised. There is only one solution - and it won't be pretty."
How about a little less blogging useless comments then?
When do we start?
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Most of us in Scotland suspect dirty work at the crossroads. Please keep up the pressure Guido because the EBC and our dead tree publications are biased to an appalling degree. And a warning to all of the good people of England, with the BNP winning council seats you can bet your life that there will be dirty work afoot throughout any and every election.
Rexel No 56
· 10 months ago
Two days before the by-election I posted that Labour would win.
Why? Because the great McCoward had twice visited the constituency.
He would never had done this had there been even a 1% risk of the election being lost. Remember Crewe and Glasgow East when, of course, no PM could ever visit a bye-election, ever.
So, the quesion remains. How did McSnot know there was a 100% chance of winning? (And why didn't I bet on the outcome?)
Allied to the alleged vote-rigging, is the whole issue of the way the banking rescue was conducted at that time.
Were the scottish banks favoured to shore up the Glenrothes vote?
Was Iceland picked-on to undermine the status of celtic, independent nations and so reduce the SNP vote?
All in all, and with some good investigative journalism, I suspect that Glenrothes will one day be acknowledged as the most corrupt (and most costly) bye-election ever. Certainly makes the Humber Bridge bribe in '65 look like small change compared to the RBS and HBOS bailouts.
R56
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Ambrose Silk is a dick.
And this is a serious comment. If you can come on here and be an apologist for vote rigging, then it's just as well you're hiding in anonymity...
You're a disgrace.
I hope it's one of your "peculiarities" the Government cracks down in its next authoritarian blitz, and that you get plenty of solitary time to reconsider your idiocy.
Oldrightie
· 10 months ago
The next General Election result by percentage of the votes "found".
Labour 96% Others 4%
JuanKerr.com
· 10 months ago
Word on the scene in Scotland is their was a conserted effort in union circles to rig and mop up evidence.
EXCELLENT!My word ver this time is SPERM!
I will post evidence on my blog as just took a proud screenshot!
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Stop the Waugh Coalition 11:03 - Oooooooh Matron!
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
So ... Labour, curently having the lowest poll rating in the past 30 years, will miraculously sweep into power on a landslide victory at the next election. Cue "Things can only get better", "We are the champions" and tvbytes of Gordon looking noble and statesmanlike.
Hopefully by then UK elections will be subject to UN monitoring. Perhaps Zimbabwe might want to send electoral monitors.
ukipwebmaster
· 10 months ago
You could say that Labour had a paper candidate?
Chris Paul
· 10 months ago
Tellers having view on night. A technicality that candidates, agents and tellers could have sorted out with returning officer on the night. If they didn't - more fool them.
If problem with electronic scanner presumably - hand job? In which case nae bother.
Finally, how many PVs in total? And how many PVs are suspicious? And which party or parties are you suggesting was "at it"?
And, oh alright, a Columbo moment, just one more thing sir ... how disappeared is the register? Presumably you mean the marked register by this?
Put some numbers to your concerns Guido. Are we talking 50 whiffy PVs here? Or 500? Or 5000? At which point you have our attention.
Lib Dems here got caught with more than a dozen proxies - most to Cllrs - at a single one-bed address. Was it the Lib Dems at it in Glenrothes then? And does that Raytheon PR and cluster bomb expert from the neighbouring constituency have any case to answer?
Martin
· 10 months ago
Don't expect the BBC to send Michael Prick (he who never washes) to investigate.
Faux Cu
· 10 months ago
Anonymous mitch said...
Ian Hamilton Q.C. - the guy who bought Lloyds shares and is now complaining he wasn't told they could go down in value? Yeah, right.
Q.C. = Quite (a) Cunt ?
February 24, 2009 10:27 AM
You are a clown.
He bought RBS shares after being told the issue would put the bank back firmly on its feet. His position is that the bank was insolvent and there was not full disclosure as to the indebtedness so, he was defrauded of his funds.
Try to pay attention at the back of the class there Mitch
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Living in Breckland in Norfoflk and having been the victims of a totally inept experiement in ecounting during the 2007 local elections (thousands of votes lost, everyone blaming each other etc) then reading the Electoral Commission's report slamming virtually all the councils that took part in those experiments I am agog that they didn't give themselves a lot of time to ensure there were no issues with the electronic counting equipment.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Why are you surprised that the cannot count. Labour wrecked the education system years ago. It's all they can do not to add up their broo money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k7VoFiagfs
Stiletto
· 10 months ago
Armitage Shanks depth charge said...
the last people I would rely on to give me the "news" is the BBC or the dead tree press
They are so much up their own arses and politically biased they are in reality finished, it is only a matter of time
Exactly
Stop the Waugh Coalition
· 10 months ago
Anonymous 11.03 am.
Run along, and come back when you can debate at an adult level.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
It is strange that they had an extra 7000 postal votes and then register disappears when the SNP ask for it. Labour have form on this and so it can not be discounted.
subrosa
· 10 months ago
Thanks for this post Guido. The Scotsman reports it was all hunky dorey and the Herald isn't that much better.
Scots are now having to rely on people like yourself to ensure this is kept in the public eye and give a balanced account of the situation.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Stop the Waugh Coalition - Fuck off cunt. Is this better?
I remember watching this on the night stv, and even before the final results came through thinking to myself what a scam
Jess The Dog
· 10 months ago
I watched the by-election closely and doubt there was any organised fraud - at least electoral fraud!
There was a virtual campaign run where the candidate was escorted by Sarah Brown around various locations for staged photocalls, lapped up by the press - call it Potemkin campaigning.
Labour picked up on a dog-whistle issue of home care charges, which was spun ridiculously and not rebutted by the SNP. Finally, the Brown Bounce - now deflated - helped the swing. This was borne out by national polling.
The key factor in this analysis is the fact that the local party was non-existent and all this was run by Labour in Scotland.
The missing register is of concern, but I can speak from experience (not as a criminal!) when I say that the courts service in Fife is utterly useless and this does not surpise me. The other issues seem marginal.
However, I am concerned by the extent of postal voting although this would not be enough to have swung it. These should be closely monitored in future.
Stop the Waugh Coalition
· 10 months ago
Anonymous 12.51 pm.
It's about all you're capable of, I think...
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Just off the phone to a charming young lady from the Electoral Commision in Edinburgh - she says that the record went missing after it became the responsibility of the Sheriff (of Kircaldy, oddly enough, home of our useless leader, though I'm sure there is no coincidence). Because of this the Electoral Commission do not have the remit to investigate it, although there has been an inquiry launched by the Scottish Courts to investigate what has happened (I imagine the Nats have been jumping up and down in anger over this - quite rightly I might add in my opinion). Apparently there is also legislation going through Westminster to make the Returning Officer the responsible official for keeping the record of the election, presumably to minimise the chances of anybody being 'got at' (not that I am suggesting that this happened in Glenrothes, I hasten to add).
Up the revolution!
bellendgum
· 10 months ago
A dry run for the GE?.I won't be at all surprised if Labour stays in power until there's fuckall left to ruin.
urinalpeep
· 10 months ago
Quite a long delay in holding the poll! Zanulab have previous on poll rigging allegedly. All very strange next to lard arse's constituency.
jeremy harpoon-weetabix
· 10 months ago
Ambrose Silk said... Silly people,
Tra laa!
What a complete and utter TWAT!
VW=johninman
PC Plodd
· 10 months ago
Talwin...
fore-armed indeed you will be Sir if you don't move along and stop causing a fuss.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
All in all, and with some good investigative journalism, I suspect that Glenrothes will one day be acknowledged as the most corrupt (and most costly) bye-election ever."
Rexel-this journalism will NOT come from north of Hadrians wall!We do not have any newspapers worthy of the name! All they dredge up on a daily basis is copies of radio four "news" a day later-if you want in depth analysis of politics, you can forget it! All we get are constant lies concerning liebour and sniping at the SNP.
The circulation of Scots "papers" is plummeting as a result and, indeed, they are now having to make large scale redundancies.
This is why most Scots with more than one brain cell get the REAL news from forums such as this and reading the English online newspapers!
Living here must resemble N Korea!
Dinnad the Pict
· 10 months ago
Time for Inspector Rebus to investigate this voting conspiracy and the goings-on in Cardenden. McBroon's wife was there, that wee nyaff Rami threatened the press with his special branch heavies and someone stole the marked register from the sheriff clerk.
The smell of personation, postal vote fraud and miscounting of ballot papers from his home village is right up Rebus' street.
Trumpeter Lanfried
· 10 months ago
1)Any candidate whose view of the counting tables was obstructed should have protested to the returning officer then and there.
2) Cameron should say NOW that a Tory government will restrict postal voting to those voters who can produce evidence that they are unable to vote in person.
cheed
· 10 months ago
It stank so much of fish, I put on a last minute bet for Labour to win at 3/1.
cassandra
· 10 months ago
The long delay for the Glenrothes BE was very different from the rush job at Crewe&Nantwich, the liebore bastards called one while the incumbent corpse was still warm, the change in tactics was very strange, were they giving themselves ehough time to rig the vote? Of course they were! McMental visiting twice was a key indicator of a rigged poll, the NULAB canvassers were spat at and humiliated wherever they dared turnup and the street organisation was dire but in some disused office there were plenty of NULAB droids filling out fake PVs and the actual ballots were stuffed! A simple count of the actual votes would show this and a simple forensic test on the pen ink used to mark the PV would show that the postal voters were so poor that they had to pass the same biro from house to house, hundreds of times! Yeah thats credible eh? What a sense of community these Jocks have, using the same pen over and over again and so eco friendly eh? Newlabour stole that election and an inquiry would prove it, an impartial inquiry could uncover the fraud within a month but an inqiry aint gonna happen because more poll rigging is being planned right now on a massive scale, the commissars from the big three are never going to submit to defeat, they will never submit to judgement by the ordinary voter they all so despise! The coming election results are being negotiated right now, behind the scenes the commissars are deciding who gets what seats to make it look legit on the surface but the coming elections will be so rigged that Mugabe would blush with fucking pride!
Gooey Blob
· 10 months ago
I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think we need election monitors in this country, such is the potential for electoral fraud these days. That's not to say I believe it happens everywhere, but it is happening frequently enough to make observers necessary.
Aye We Can !
· 10 months ago
a fix yes. but a betting scam by local cooncil workers , not a high level poitical coup.
Labour may have turned a blind eye as they were the beneficiaries ( it was they who were 5 to 1 against two weeks before polling) , but it was not their sting.
True - I was there, the local bookies took a hammering.
Labour were not that desperate to win - it was only a by election and their spinners were already explaining away defeat as the pols closed (ask London lobby jp jounos Guido) ...and then these ballot boxes were opened
And three weeks later the marked electoral rolls dissapeared.
Ratsniffer
· 10 months ago
It couldn't be long before voters being allowed to democratically choose the party of their choice became an inconvenience for Zanulabour.
Easy solution - do what any good dictatorship does:
Hold "elections" in which the result has already been decided.
Saves a lot of tedious formalities, like losing.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
They probably all stuff ballots and fiddle postal votes. All that needs to be counted/ looked at again here are those postal ballots. Just check that there were live voters at the addresses on the day.
The curious thing about the vote was that pollsters didn't pick up such a massive vote share going to Liebour. That renders the result at least fishy. The pollsters are rarely very far out.
jgm2
· 10 months ago
Aye we Can...
a fix yes. but a betting scam by local cooncil workers , not a high level poitical coup.
Labour may have turned a blind eye as they were the beneficiaries ( it was they who were 5 to 1 against two weeks before polling) , but it was not their sting.
If you say so. Still, long term it has done no harm. It just galvanises the opposition to take nothing for granted in the final annihilation of this Labour reign of Terror.
Meanwhile Brown has just quadrupled national debt and given Lloyds a half billion quid interest let-off on the understanding that they make 40bn quid available to re-inflate his property bubble.
Gotta get all those people borrowed to the hilt again. Otherwise its curtains for Gordo. If that means destroying the entire UK economy and going Mugabe with the economy then that is a price worth paying in his fucked-up diseased brain.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Timing is important.
I smell the reek of a mandyrancid slime trail
Póló
· 10 months ago
Had this been electronic voting you wouldn't even know about it. Consider yourselves lucky.
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OT - Jowell says (to Progress) that Labour should be on the side of the aspirational.
She is certainly aspirational.
Martin Bright's defence of her at the weekend was laughable.
Apparently, ministers quite like her and she can hold her own in dinner table conversation.
Fancy that - she should run the country.
No mention of the fact that Bright and Jowell are fellow dinners at London's top restaurants (in Jowell's words, "Nothing's too good for the working class!")
Jowell? Working class?
DELUSIONAL!!!
So it's "move along there-nothing to see" as usual.
They should hold the by election again.
The judge said he regretted the government had dismissed recent warnings about the system's failings as "scaremongering".
He pointed to a government statement which said: "The systems already in place to deal with the allegations of electoral fraud are clearly working."
Mr Mawrey said: "Anybody who has sat through the case I have just tried and listened to evidence of electoral fraud that would disgrace a banana republic would find this statement surprising...
"The systems to deal with fraud are not working well," he said.
"They are not working badly. The fact is that there are no systems to deal realistically with fraud and there never have been. Until there are, fraud will continue unabated."
Postal votes 'wide-open to fraud'
A lack of appropriate subtlety when rigging the ballot is absolutely unforgiveable. It doesn't do to rub the electorate's noses in it.
Postal vote rigging is nothing new for ZaNuLab but this one takes the McVittie's Rich Tea.
There has been much humorous speculation in Scottish political blogs that McCavity Broon will declare a national emergency just before whenever the next General Election comes and only permit it, in the name of maintaining the Queen's Peace, that only posta votes will be permitted.
Wee shit Doogie Alexander, Minister for Colonial Affairs and Electoral Adviser to Mugabe's regime, is working on it as we speak.
Good job Labour. Still it represents a phyrric victory for the Labour war on truth, transparency, democracy and decency. For they will not be able to pull this stunt in the General election. Cameron - and, more relevantly in Scotland, Salmond will be able to make much political capital about ensuring all votes are subject to independent scrutiny and that there are no 'hidden' counts.
Nothing.
There weren't enough postal votes to make a difference.
Yee haw!
Re-elected! The Parliamentary side of my arse he will be.
Only local government employees ever get to work on election administration, and the unions can be relied upon to direct their members' efforts.
The wheeze involves taking a day's paid leave and then getting paid again for a day at the polling station, or else getting triple over-time in the evening at the count.
Anyone not counting correctly simply won't be asked back on board the gravy train.
Simples, as my meerkat friend Aleksandr always says.
"....This weekend, Gordon Brown argued that he wanted to see an end to profligate lending and 'the reinvention of the traditional savings and mortgage bank in Britain for loans to be made on prudent and careful terms.'
Yet within hours of saying so, his own officials at Number 10 were letting it be known that Northern Rock would be allowed to grant 90 per cent mortgages.
At a time when house prices are plummeting, many would regard the encouragement of 90 per cent mortgages as the height of folly - indeed, many banks and loan companies are currently only prepared to offer 75 per cent loan to equity ratios.
Apart from the breathtaking humbug involved in preaching one policy and adopting another, we shouldn't perhaps be surprised by any of this.........
......by such frenetic and contradictory activity, the government has evoked a sense of panic - and fuelled the very instability it is trying to resolve."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1153688/ALEX-BRUMMER-Labours-contradictory-advice-evoked-sense-panic--fuelled-instability-trying-remove.html
As in...
"I, Tarquin Fintimlinbinwhinbimlim Bus Stop F’tang F’tang It's Labour, Labour, Labour, all the Way, Ole Biscuit-Barrel, Returning Officer for Fife and Hwange, declare that Lindsay Robert Gabriel Mugabe Roy, CBE, OBE, FU2 and bar, is hereby returned as Memember of Parliament for Glenrothes and Matabeleland. And may God have mercy on your souls."
Time to bring in qualification for voting too. An IQ test, a civics test, and a minimum level of net tax paid (tax paid less welfare payment received) over the preceding four years.
Have you learnt nothing form the last 12 years. Everything is believable. And nothing is reported.
The whole fucking establishment is politicised. There is only one solution - and it won't be pretty.
The ends justify the means.
Labour = habitual liars and cheats.
So the problem began in America then?
As we have seen on countless occassions in the inner cities, especially the Birmingham Labour Councillors who stole ballots & committed fraud on an epic scale, Neo Labour will do anything to stay in power, even usurping democracy.
Those fine upstanding "British" Birmingham politico's were even caught red handed by the Police in a warehouse rammed with ballots, who did nothing at the time.
I am convinced that the General Election will be cancelled on some flimsy pretext.
Well Gordoom McStalin is following Mugabe's economic model to the letter, so why not follow his democratic style as well?
Electoral Fraud = Neo Labour
No Mandate = Gordon Brown
http://www.cctvstar.blogspot.com
February 24, 2009 9:26 AM
Did you sa Rich Tea....yes I know, it shows now doesn't it....hmmmm....Andy!
Problem is, the Scots have NO self respect-until they do, then their betters, the London govt, will continue to treat their petty little "nation" with the contempt it deserves!
The general election will be awash with nulab dirty vote-rigging but next time they should bear in mind that many don't just want nulab de-selected, they want them scourged and nailed to trees.
We know full well Labour are corrupt and that they used postal fraud at Glenrothes. The question is, how can we destroy them?
http://www.cctvstar.blogspot.com
<... vote BNP
Conservatives don't care
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Labour have corrupted everything and everyone.
Q.C. = Quite (a) Cunt ?
Maybe EU/UN election monitors are required for the general election. The postal vote fiddles in Birmingham and other cities are getting out of control.
Time to bring in qualification for voting too. An IQ test, a civics test, and a minimum level of net tax paid (tax paid less welfare payment received) over the preceding four years.
February 24, 2009 9:44 AM"
No.
We don't change things.
The English Civil War was fought to decide such matters.
This was settled after the Putney Debates. Rainsborough and Ireton put both sides of the argument and a synthesis of the two PoV was incorporated into our constitution.
I will give one concession for these times - a person must be able to read and write in English. The other tests are too open to 'finessing' by interested parties after a change in government.
they are so much up their own arses and politically biased they are in reality finished, it is only a matter of time
The same difference they have in their policies towards Islam, immigration & the European Union - none what so ever.
That is why I am voting for the BNP - & I don't have jackboots, a skinhead, a Hitler fetish & I have never claimed benefits.
Strange I do not seem to fit the demographic profile that the BBC & the MSM constantly portray BNP voters to be.
The future is bright. The future is British - & I would like to give a hearty pat on the back to the main three parties & the BBC - keep up the excellent work on behalf of the BNP & British patriots everywhere.
See you at the ballot box.
Anyone know if the brow is his?
They are in on the biggest scam yet devised, the wholesale theft of BNP votes, the system is being put in place to hide/discount/nulify and spoil thousands of BNP votes, they did it in the London elections, the counters were binning thousands of BNP marked ballot papers, if they hadnt then easily two LA seats would have gone to the BNP, the system of ballot stuffing and result rigging is being put in place now, the alliance between the big three and the ultra leftist anti BNP factions is proof positive. The EU elections are a target, dozens of political activists are being recruited to do the dirty work.
Stalin said,
'its not who votes that counts, its who counts the votes'
The UK is being set up for an industrial scale vote rigging scam, the big three have counters and monitors ready to destroy votes by the tens/hundreds of thousands, democracy is being destroyed before your very eyes folks!
The result of the EU/regional ballots has already been decided now, so much for democracy eh?
Does anyone really think that these crooked westminster vermin are going to tollerate the ordinary voter kicking them out of office? Are any of you still so gullible that you believe these commissar vermin have a shred of decency and honour left in them?
There is only ONE way to banish these parasites and that is by hanging the bastards off London Bridge!
You may hate the BNP but do you hate them enough to allow the parasites to rig rig whole elections in their own favour? When the parasites have denied the BNP their democratic rights who is next on the list?
Tra laa!
I don't mind which illiterate troll proves my point, but you'll do.
How about a little less blogging useless comments then?
When do we start?
Please keep up the pressure Guido because the EBC and our dead tree publications are biased to an appalling degree.
And a warning to all of the good people of England, with the BNP winning council seats you can bet your life that there will be dirty work afoot throughout any and every election.
Why? Because the great McCoward had twice visited the constituency.
He would never had done this had there been even a 1% risk of the election being lost. Remember Crewe and Glasgow East when, of course, no PM could ever visit a bye-election, ever.
So, the quesion remains. How did McSnot know there was a 100% chance of winning? (And why didn't I bet on the outcome?)
Allied to the alleged vote-rigging, is the whole issue of the way the banking rescue was conducted at that time.
Were the scottish banks favoured to shore up the Glenrothes vote?
Was Iceland picked-on to undermine the status of celtic, independent nations and so reduce the SNP vote?
All in all, and with some good investigative journalism, I suspect that Glenrothes will one day be acknowledged as the most corrupt (and most costly) bye-election ever. Certainly makes the Humber Bridge bribe in '65 look like small change compared to the RBS and HBOS bailouts.
R56
And this is a serious comment. If you can come on here and be an apologist for vote rigging, then it's just as well you're hiding in anonymity...
You're a disgrace.
I hope it's one of your "peculiarities" the Government cracks down in its next authoritarian blitz, and that you get plenty of solitary time to reconsider your idiocy.
Labour 96%
Others 4%
EXCELLENT!My word ver this time is SPERM!
I will post evidence on my blog as just took a proud screenshot!
Hopefully by then UK elections will be subject to UN monitoring. Perhaps Zimbabwe might want to send electoral monitors.
If problem with electronic scanner presumably - hand job? In which case nae bother.
Finally, how many PVs in total? And how many PVs are suspicious? And which party or parties are you suggesting was "at it"?
And, oh alright, a Columbo moment, just one more thing sir ... how disappeared is the register? Presumably you mean the marked register by this?
Put some numbers to your concerns Guido. Are we talking 50 whiffy PVs here? Or 500? Or 5000? At which point you have our attention.
Lib Dems here got caught with more than a dozen proxies - most to Cllrs - at a single one-bed address. Was it the Lib Dems at it in Glenrothes then? And does that Raytheon PR and cluster bomb expert from the neighbouring constituency have any case to answer?
Ian Hamilton Q.C. - the guy who bought Lloyds shares and is now complaining he wasn't told they could go down in value? Yeah, right.
Q.C. = Quite (a) Cunt ?
February 24, 2009 10:27 AM
You are a clown.
He bought RBS shares after being told the issue would put the bank back firmly on its feet. His position is that the bank was insolvent and there was not full disclosure as to the indebtedness so, he was defrauded of his funds.
Try to pay attention at the back of the class there Mitch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k7VoFiagfs
the last people I would rely on to give me the "news" is the BBC or the dead tree press
They are so much up their own arses and politically biased they are in reality finished, it is only a matter of time
Exactly
Run along, and come back when you can debate at an adult level.
Scots are now having to rely on people like yourself to ensure this is kept in the public eye and give a balanced account of the situation.
Where did their sack fulls of votes go?
There was a virtual campaign run where the candidate was escorted by Sarah Brown around various locations for staged photocalls, lapped up by the press - call it Potemkin campaigning.
Labour picked up on a dog-whistle issue of home care charges, which was spun ridiculously and not rebutted by the SNP.
Finally, the Brown Bounce - now deflated - helped the swing. This was borne out by national polling.
The key factor in this analysis is the fact that the local party was non-existent and all this was run by Labour in Scotland.
The missing register is of concern, but I can speak from experience (not as a criminal!) when I say that the courts service in Fife is utterly useless and this does not surpise me. The other issues seem marginal.
However, I am concerned by the extent of postal voting although this would not be enough to have swung it. These should be closely monitored in future.
It's about all you're capable of, I think...
Up the revolution!
Zanulab have previous on poll rigging allegedly.
All very strange next to lard arse's constituency.
Silly people,
Tra laa!
What a complete and utter TWAT!
VW=johninman
fore-armed indeed you will be Sir if you don't move along and stop causing a fuss.
Rexel-this journalism will NOT come from north of Hadrians wall!We do not have any newspapers worthy of the name! All they dredge up on a daily basis is copies of radio four "news" a day later-if you want in depth analysis of politics, you can forget it! All we get are constant lies concerning liebour and sniping at the SNP.
The circulation of Scots "papers" is plummeting as a result and, indeed, they are now having to make large scale redundancies.
This is why most Scots with more than one brain cell get the REAL news from forums such as this and reading the English online newspapers!
Living here must resemble N Korea!
The smell of personation, postal vote fraud and miscounting of ballot papers from his home village is right up Rebus' street.
2) Cameron should say NOW that a Tory government will restrict postal voting to those voters who can produce evidence that they are unable to vote in person.
McMental visiting twice was a key indicator of a rigged poll, the NULAB canvassers were spat at and humiliated wherever they dared turnup and the street organisation was dire but in some disused office there were plenty of NULAB droids filling out fake PVs and the actual ballots were stuffed!
A simple count of the actual votes would show this and a simple forensic test on the pen ink used to mark the PV would show that the postal voters were so poor that they had to pass the same biro from house to house, hundreds of times! Yeah thats credible eh? What a sense of community these Jocks have, using the same pen over and over again and so eco friendly eh?
Newlabour stole that election and an inquiry would prove it, an impartial inquiry could uncover the fraud within a month but an inqiry aint gonna happen because more poll rigging is being planned right now on a massive scale, the commissars from the big three are never going to submit to defeat, they will never submit to judgement by the ordinary voter they all so despise!
The coming election results are being negotiated right now, behind the scenes the commissars are deciding who gets what seats to make it look legit on the surface but the coming elections will be so rigged that Mugabe would blush with fucking pride!
Labour may have turned a blind eye as they were the beneficiaries ( it was they who were 5 to 1 against two weeks before polling) , but it was not their sting.
True - I was there, the local bookies took a hammering.
Labour were not that desperate to win - it was only a by election and their spinners were already explaining away defeat as the pols closed (ask London lobby jp
jounos Guido) ...and then these ballot boxes were opened
And three weeks later the marked electoral rolls dissapeared.
Easy solution - do what any good dictatorship does:
Hold "elections" in which the result has already been decided.
Saves a lot of tedious formalities, like losing.
The curious thing about the vote was that pollsters didn't pick up such a massive vote share going to Liebour. That renders the result at least fishy. The pollsters are rarely very far out.
a fix yes. but a betting scam by local cooncil workers , not a high level poitical coup.
Labour may have turned a blind eye as they were the beneficiaries ( it was they who were 5 to 1 against two weeks before polling) , but it was not their sting.
If you say so. Still, long term it has done no harm. It just galvanises the opposition to take nothing for granted in the final annihilation of this Labour reign of Terror.
Meanwhile Brown has just quadrupled national debt and given Lloyds a half billion quid interest let-off on the understanding that they make 40bn quid available to re-inflate his property bubble.
Gotta get all those people borrowed to the hilt again. Otherwise its curtains for Gordo. If that means destroying the entire UK economy and going Mugabe with the economy then that is a price worth paying in his fucked-up diseased brain.
I smell the reek of a mandyrancid slime trail