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Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

DWMF — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:27:00 -0000

Anonymous @ March 1, 2009 5:14 PM: "Didn't D'Anconia de-fraud investors in the San Sebastien mines?"

No. He was the only "investor". He pulled a fast one on the Argentinian government who thought they could seize a profitable copper mine. Like a financial scorched earth policy.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Anonymous — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:25:00 -0000

6:42 "

"If Harriet Harman suggests that an individual will be targetted by the Government because "the Prime Minister has said so" - regardless of whether the individual's rights are protected by the law, then all we need to do is dress her in a black uniform with a swastika, or a KGB uniform, to see what attitude this mirrors. I didn't know that Gordon Brown's title had recently become "Der Fuehrer"."

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Oh where have you been, we started a fire at the Riechstag tonight and tomorrow we march into Sudenteland to the beat of Harriets Drum !!!

National Socialism is the new Black ( shits) you know !!!

ps I did say a few weeks ago that she would make a cunt of herself did I not. Well there you have it !

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Anonymous — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:42:00 -0000

If Harriet Harman suggests that an individual will be targetted by the Government because "the Prime Minister has said so" - regardless of whether the individual's rights are protected by the law, then all we need to do is dress her in a black uniform with a swastika, or a KGB uniform, to see what attitude this mirrors. I didn't know that Gordon Brown's title had recently become "Der Fuehrer".

Besides this, if it is appropriate to implement assassination by media towards Fred Goodwin for RBS (when all parties globally have acknowledged that no-one saw this coming), and demand that he give up his pension - then it is just as appropriate that Gordon Brown give up his current pension (and position) for his absolutely unjustifiable decision to lose the UK Billions of Pounds by selling off the UK's Gold Reserves at one of the lowest prices in history (and unlike the Global Economic Crisis, plenty of people saw that coming at the time - and said so).

The same can be aid for Alistair Darling's ham-handed and catastrophic handling of the Northern Rock debacle, as his and his Prime Minister's dallying and fumbling (and questionable / unethical behaviour towards Virgin Money) also merit the seizure of their pensions - as they turned a salvageable situation into a disaster (in which their media leaks also played a significant role).

Frankly, one of the most significant causes of the Global Economic Crisis can be found in the legislation passed by Bill Clinton - which Robert Reich also had a strong hand in implementing - when they legislated (for votes, no doubt) to force banks to provide mortgages to those who could not afford them - punishing and fining banks which did not thereafter comply.

If one does this, does one not expect banks to try to find a way to try to make money out of an otherwise bottomless hole. Similarly, as banking is globalised, if the US Banks start this, for others not to follow suit will be commercially untenable.

Of course, the current Labour government and its inept former Chancellor - now unelected Prime Minister - also ran wild with their completely reckless drive for everyone to own their own home. Some people just can't - and the current financial crisis is more to do with the failure of their (and Bill Clinton's) uninformed interference in the private sector to effect social engineering, than it is to do with banks and bankers.

Once politicians start to artificially meddle with financial markets and structures, what the end result will be is unknown, and (as they are now) they can be catastrophic.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Anonymous — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:14:00 -0000

Wrong guy, wrong target, wrong reason. Politics of envy.

Problem-child: FSA.

Wake up.

Regards,

Tom

PS. Atlas Shrugged: Didn't D'Anconia de-fraud investors in the San Sebastien mines? You hypocrite.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Aethelred — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:15:00 -0000

"I strongly suspect that the pregabalin needs to be 150mg, up from 50mg that you have now."

Now, now Mr Draper, you shouldn't be prescribing without a proper qualification.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Anonymous — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:22:00 -0000

Atlas Shrugged

You really do need to keep up with the tablets. I strongly suspect that the pregabalin needs to be 150mg, up from 50mg that you have now.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

urinalpeep — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:59:00 -0000

Shafted the customers ,shafted the shareholders, shafted the staff, shafted Brown and Darling; is the guy a Geordie and is his real first name Bobby?

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Mule Train — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:23:00 -0000

Anonymous said...
Last night on Newsnight I heard loonie left Frank Dobson moanong about the whole affair, stating that for someone who oversaw such disasterous banking results through sheer incompetence to receive any pension was entirely wrong. He could have been talking about his own loonie Nulab cabinet just as easily. The losses far greater and the pensions less, but guaranteed, nevertheless.

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I saw him also, what an inciherent f*cking bearded clam Dobson is, Dobby by name dobbin by nature!!

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Jade Goody — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:46:00 -0000

Hello?

I'm still here, innit?

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Martin — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:45:00 -0000

McSnot has lost the plot. I just hope that as soon as the Tories get elected they kill the BBC. No one will give a shit and they can spin that they are saving us all £140 a year.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Air Nokia One — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:40:00 -0000

The new Tescos advert states that 'they compare prices on the things that people actually buy'. Shame they can't do the countries inflation calculations as well then as every little helps.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Air Nokia One — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:30:00 -0000

Did anyone see this shite from Jack Straw in the Guardian

"Our record isn't perfect. But talk of a police state is daftThere was no golden age of liberty. Since 1997, we have done more to extend freedoms than any government before"

Are they all just totally fucking deluded or does he actually believe what he just said? They all seem to be in denial for the last 12 years and either way I just find the whole situation very scary.

They have to go and soon.

Mandleson's head being called for over the Heathrow debacle. Twice from the commons and once from the Lords would be to good for the cunt. Lamposts all round.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Budgie — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:54:00 -0000

Odin's Raven said..."Theoretically they could pass a bill of attainder declaring the bankers to be traitors who must be executed ..."

I think that ZaNu Lab removed the "anomaly" of execution for treason around 2005. Perhaps they were thinking ahead?

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Starfucks Mandybotts — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:54:00 -0000

Mandelson in new 'favours' row:
BREAKING NEWS FROM D.MAIL

Heathrow PR pal had six meetings with ministers before new runway go-ahead

Details have emerged of the extraordinary access the Business Secretary's close acquaintance Roland Rudd - who represents airport operator BAA - had to the top tiers of Government.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Anonymous — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:52:00 -0000

Jade in hospice over hallucinations!

Sadly he wished her well last week

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Its the BROWN economy stupid ! — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:21:00 -0000

There are still many fuckwits out there and in the media who seem to think this current crisis has nothing to do with Browns fiscal management of the economy over the past 11 years. Its like he did very well for most of that time but now faces a new Global challenge.

Watch my lips.

HE DIDNT DO VERY WELL AT ALL OVER THE PAST 11 YEARS HIS POLICIES WERE ALWAYS SMOKE AND MORRORS AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW IS THE INEVITABLE RESULT OF SUCH POLICIES. NOW IS THAT PERFECTLY FUCKING CLEAR !

GOOD.

CALL AN ELECTION !

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Anonymous — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:09:00 -0000

In lieu of undoubtedly futile legal action, the government should simply pass a law taxing the excessive pensions of former executives of tax-payer funded (and owned)banks so that that the pensions are reduced to an acceptable amount, say £20,000 per year.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Cardinal del Monte — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:52:00 -0000

You forgot Goodwin's knighthood (2004) "for services to banking", no doubt recommended by the then Chancellor of the Exchequer, Gordon Brown....

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Anonymous — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:26:00 -0000

Last night on Newsnight I heard loonie left Frank Dobson moanong about the whole affair, stating that for someone who oversaw such disasterous banking results through sheer incompetence to receive any pension was entirely wrong. He could have been talking about his own loonie Nulab cabinet just as easily. The losses far greater and the pensions less, but guaranteed, nevertheless.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Labour wipeout — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:15:00 -0000

Im sure all you have seen the grainy footage taken in the Final days of the Reich showing the obviously deluded Fuhrer inspecting the young children and old men who are his last line of defense against the impending russian onslaught on Berlin.

It seems to me that in the last final days of this regime we will seean obviously deluded PM surrounding himself with niaive young acolytes who are arrogantly ambitious enough to think this is their moment of stardom but are are simply being used by a leader who is "in Government but not in power" as he can easily manipulate and control thme.

The end game, as always is micromanagement of useful idiots.

Watch this space.

ps if you are wondering where Hitlers experienced Generals and colleagues were during this time well they were busily trying to "engage" with the allies to sue for a peace of their own.

T'was always thus.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Anonymous — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:09:00 -0000

The entire ruling class of THE WORLD should be arrested for conspiracy to defraud the tax payer.

This created apparent and also very real economic meltdown is a criminal CONSPIRACY of the highest order, of that there is no doubt whatsoever. All very well explained in an establishment publication, namely Atlas Shrugged by a Communist/fascist Russian establishment shagging tart, called Ayn Rand.

We have been viciously betrayed by our own ruling class, however things are about to get much much worse.

Gordon Brown knows EXACTLY what he is doing, which is exactly what he is being told to do by his puppet masters.

To quote the evilly dishonest Marxist high masonic crook, in his own words of just 5 long years ago to the CBI.

"This ( New World Order ) will constitute the biggest change in society since the industrial revolution."

He was not kidding, because it has always been GB's long since appointed job to very much help it to happen.

The worlds banking system has been owned and therefore run by the most truly evil creatures breathing on this planet, for around 300 years. The World Banking System owns this country, all of its politicians, and now all of its people, its people's savings, and future taxable incomes.

The establishment are utterly determined to partially or apparently destroy all that they do control, so that they can ultimately control EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY.

Our present establishment BBC/MSM selected government are not nationalizing the International Banking System. The International Banking system long since privatized this entire nation. It is now internationalizing all of us, into a Communist/Fascist NEW WORLD ORDER. Which will IMO be a completely undemocratic, forever more murderous nightmare for ordinary people. Others may disagree. However IMO unless our ruling elites suddenly brake a habit of many life times and start telling the REAL TRUTH for once, our futures are as good as set in grave yard granite stone.

Understand this now, or stay in blissful ignorance, until you personally receive your allotted ticket to a 're-education' or micro-chipping concentration camp near you.

As a Zionist myself I have little in principle against a world of free trade and open borders, backed up by common law and a written libertarian type constitution.

However the elitist Zionist and Papal powers that utterly control almost this entire planet, have clearly far more evilly authoritarian ambitions to say the very least. This is made obvious by the fact that the elites have no intention of ever telling the truth to the ordinary people as to their current and ultimate plans for the future of mankind. A future that very seriously does not include most of us living long enough to witness.

Atlas Shrugged

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Odin's Raven — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:03:00 -0000

If they were serious about getting the pension money back, they could accuse the bankers of financial terrorism, and ship them to Guantanimo; or just have some tough guys infringe their human rights until they signed confessions and renounced their pensions and any other assets they've salted away.

Theoretically they could pass a bill of attainder declaring the bankers to be traitors who must be executed and their assets seized.

Nothing of the sort is likely to happen. They know most of the public would want to apply the same measures to the government. The opposition knows that in a few years they could be in a similar position.

It will all blow over. The lawyers will report that they can't do anything. The precedent having been set, Brown and his cronies will be allowed to retire quietly with relatively vast pensions - and perhaps more gifts to be expected from those whose interests have been served - despite having wrecked the whole country.

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

pp — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:01:00 -0000

This quote looks good:-

We are exploring all the legal action necessary to recover pension payments from people who received too much

Doesn't seem to be limited to bankers... so MPs beware...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7916215.stm

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

£2,000,000,000,000 and still c — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:01:00 -0000

Take it from me, the chances of any basis for a legal challenge is almost zero and in the event that the government did attampt to recover a portion of Sir Fred's pension pot via the courts - the European Court of Human Rights will throw the whole thing out on appeal.

A slight irony there as it was New Labour who brought in the Human Rights Act in the first place.

But of course it keeps the Labour supporting media busy deflecting the spotlight from the real culpri in all this - one John Gordon Brown - we ought to start a petition to claw back his pension after all his "crime" is worse than Goodwin's - he was in charge of the whole uk economy for over a decade and a right mess he's made of it too !!!!!!

Re: Fred Goodwin’s Payslip Revealed

Norf London Ratepayer — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:44:00 -0000

@Anonymous bergen said...

'Following the comments on the previous thread,Bundred of the Audit Commission was on Today this morning and gave a calm and lucid account of the plight we're in.'

Bundred is a Labour Party placeman and shill (ex GLC councillor with connections to New Labour stalwarts at cabinet level) and has a long dubious record of covering up corrupt practices by Labour party officials in London local government. There is even official EU auditors report out there that recommends Bundred and his sleazy mates be reported to the criminal authorities UK authorities for prosecution, following a significant fraud on EU monies, yet Bundred's been protected from his come-uppence by Labour Party high ups.

True to form Bundred has already backtracked on his Times article and BBC interview of this morning. Bundred is now being reported on the BBC that he didn't mean that financial Armegeddon was likely due to McBusts record levels of of public debt, just that swingeing expenditure cuts would be needed in local government to address the issue. What the Labour government is doing is using the supposedly 'independent' Bundred to fly a kite in advance of a major policy U turn on public expenditure cuts. McBroon and his mates cannot do so themselves without kicking off a shitstorm of a fight with the public sector unions who bankroll the Labour Party. The cuts are inevitable because McBroon's spending and debt binge has outstripped to capacity of the country's tax base to meet it. Put simply, Osborne was right about the need for such cuts but the government cannot admit so.

New Labour. Bunch of thieving crooks. Always were. Always will be.