'We can't have two successive Prime Minister's foisted on the country by the Labour Party without any mandate.'
Here Here
Dick the Prick
· 10 months ago
Last sentence - we bloody well can and that's the unbearable shiteness of being that is Labour.
sir dando tweakshafte
· 10 months ago
This calls for some fresh cliches, involving ferrets and turkeys fighting in a sack over the date of Boxing Day.
But I'm really not sure it's worth the effort.
Bill d'Sarse
· 10 months ago
This has all the indications of the initial preparations for a general election campaign.
June anybody?
Winston Smith
· 10 months ago
An election would be fantastic, but as we know Labour don't do democracy.
Beam Me Up Snotty
· 10 months ago
"We can't have two successive Prime Minister's foisted on the country by the Labour Party without any mandate."
Hmmm.
Lola
· 10 months ago
If (when?) they dump McMental they will be doomed as such an act is an absolute admission that all of the policies they have followed since 1997 were tripe.
It'll give the opposition a field day.
Bring it on.
DRAPERBOT-X874786489
· 10 months ago
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LOL from Planet Mad!
· 10 months ago
And British Jobs for British People: this is a good take and even mentions the Hoon!
http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/4497901?fr=yvmtf
Have a good laugh we all need it! Pathetic people running about in circles...who said increasingly looking like a lame duck, if it limp qucks and looks like a duckk it is! Don't be so reticent!
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Ah, but things must be difficult for Harriet and Alan in particular. They know that one moment of hesitation, one day when they are not 'Apprentice' like enough in terms of marketing bullshit and the crown will go to some inferior upstart like Photoshop Purnell or Bonkers Burnham...
However bad Postie Johnson might feel about 'out-of-character' boasting and bravado nothing would be worse than knowing that Brown is going anyway, and that someone else took the crown purely because they had were even more deluded in self-believing aggrandisement than Harriet Harpy..
They have to start realising that Gordon is toast, and that the 'best' person for the job has to 'seize the day', otherwise another chinless wonder will become PM due purely to over-estimating their ability and a greed for power...
Only one person can stop all this..
Is it a bird ?
Is it a plane ?
NO - IT'S SUPER-CHIPMUNK !!!!
pissed off cripple
· 10 months ago
GB might be usurped, but I still want to string him up and thrash him like a pinata. And the rest of the useless bunch of cabineteers.
Throbber
· 10 months ago
Since when have Labour had an once of honour? They won't give a fuck what anyone thinks, they will foist anyone they like on us and will not give a fuck. They are a bunch of insufferable, self centred, dishonest cunts.
Events dear boy, events
· 10 months ago
I have been saying the same on my blog recently. Two unelected PM's in one parliament is not sustainable
Rush-is-Right
· 10 months ago
We can't have two successive Prime Minister's foisted on the country by the Labour Party without any mandate.
Who says? This is a party that has stretched constitutional behaviour to breaking point and beyond. Ministers never resign however badly they are shown to have behaved, they have sold honours, and they have manipulated the House of Lords. They have gerrymandered elections through rigged postal voting, they have invented communications allowances for the dissemination of labour party propaganda at public expense and they have appointed their placeholders to every significant public body.
I wouldn't put anything past this lot, including putting off a General Election because of the economic emergency.
Raving loon
· 10 months ago
Would that be the great clunking foist then?
Gendeau
· 10 months ago
So, he's a zanulaba grade cock, or a scheming cunt...or (probably) both.
I'm afraid I don't share your (Guido) optimism about getting an early election, these cunts know that they are going to lose. They're just looking for the best position to sit out the generation of opposition. Far better (for them) to let gorgon take the fall (whilst they pad their bank accounts), but be in a position to get the leadership after the next election (as late as el gordo can make it).
In the meantime CallMeDave still refuses to give something for people to vote FOR. He's happy to win by letting people vote against zanulabia. The BNP seems the logical beneficiary to this - why vote for the cons if they're pretty much the same as gorgon's bunch of third rate incompetents?
CallMeDave _can_ announce some policies that are a) good for the country b) (as (a) doesn't seem to be enough) are unstealable by gorgon.
No Id cards NHS computer systems - small and workable only CCTV control GCHQ databases Filleting of Quangos and fake charities
For fuxake Dave please start looking like you deserve to fucking win.
Bring back David Davis and start to listen to what freedom is about.
It looks like the tories made a monumental mistake picking you over DD. If you listen and DO what he says, perhaps WE (the people) can have the best of both worlds (whatever the skills you're supposed to bring to the party are - Being Blair/Obama mk III is NOT FUCKING GOOD ENOUGH).
Plato
· 10 months ago
OT A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
Gimpy has just posted this little update on Mr Draper's qualifications.
It's not just the PLP who have a vote if there's an election and 'grassroots' supporters will never vote for Harman - has to be Postman Twat to avoid all the fucking useless Cllrs losing their gig (postal votes excepted).
It would be useful for the candidates to do a mae culpa on holding a coronation - could be worth a few points as Cameron is a bit of a cunt.
Gendeau
· 10 months ago
Anon @ 10:08
Aha, you had me going there!
"someone else took the crown purely because they had were even more deluded in self-believing aggrandisement than Harriet Harpy.. "
How can anyone be more deluded than HH?
Proves my point, you weren't being serious...oh wait...blears, balls, millitwunts, jacquit!
Oh fuck, sorry Anon you were right; it is possible that there are zanulabia mps as deluded (or more) than that ultra-twunt HH
I can only apologise...unlike el gordo
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
They will hang on to the bitter, bitter end under Brown with a Micawberish determination not to let go
Javelin
· 10 months ago
Six months ago (at the latest) Brown's successor thought they may have had a chance to fight back at the election after next. That now looks like a very stupid proposition.
The next leader of the Labour Party will be either a William Hague figure (if Milliband stands) or a Michael Howard (if an older person stands). Because of this no one will want to stand. The best deal anybody in the cabinet can get is to become PM - even for a few short weeks and claim a larger pension. These are a bunch of money grubbers who have destroyed the economy in the name of social justice.
Deja Vu
· 10 months ago
For those of us who stuck, through tribal loyalty, to the Tories from 92-97, this is like watching Groundhog Day.
Only without the laughs, the learning process and the happy ending.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
It has been assumed by some that the G20 summit in April will be used by Brown as a grandstanding photo-opportunity in which he will play the Great World Statesman and face down his many detractors.
But it's far more likely that the event will descend into chaos and end in acrimony. Brown, Sarkozy, Merkel and Berlusconi are meeting this weekend to stitch up the agenda, but there are other interests in play determined to stop them.
And there will be uncontrollable sideshows, like Harman's risible idea of a women's summit. Who will be the attenders? Michele Obama (I doubt it), Hilary Clinton (purlese), Carla Bruni (now you're talking). Are catamites invited?
Brown's credibility has now been fully invested in the prospect of getting Russia, China, Brazil, the EU and the US all singing from the same hymn sheet at the final plenary. In my humble opinion he will fail to achieve this, and will finish the summit an even bigger twat that he starts it.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Guido, Really! 'Two successive Prime Minister's'(sic) The Apostrophe Police will be calling!
Bill Quango MP
· 10 months ago
Brothers and sisters we must take on the task of preparing for 10-15 years of opposition while the Red flag fight the white flag in interminable party political positioning.
Red Wedge is right to say a week is a long time in politics. Fifteen years is a bloody ice age.
So lets all pull together and sharpen our knives and bribe our colleagues with improbable and pointless shadow jobs. The victory of tomorrow can be won today. Karl Marx said something profound. "Its not over till the fat man sings" And Prescott is humming in his bath already. Its time to get back to our roots. The real Labour party.
A cabal of duplicitous, back-stabbing,hair splitting, factionalised hamper of lonely students, bed wetters, anarchists, permanently off sick, rent a mob benefits scroungers, faux academics, trade union deceivers, gravy train sniffers, failed greens,business low fliers, chancers, anarchists, Marxists, Trots,Social democrats,asylum seekers,anarchists, communists,third way bullshitters, astrologers,water diviners,animal rights activists, lucky heather sellers, little Napoleons, socialist, euro bureaucrats, nannying, guardian loving do gooders and Big Brother statists and control freaks..and just plain freaks..
Brothers and sisters..we always knew this NuLabour Mumbo Jumbo would never fly. Lets get back to what we do best. Lets join together to create a schism!
Wee Dougie and the Ginger Chimpmunk are simply jockeying for position by rebuking their opponents. Neither are likely to be leader, but are likely to be frozen out by Harperson, Balls, Milibland etc.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Looks like the knives are out - I've got a whetstone if any of the useless gits know how to use one.
Neues Arbeit - Kraft durch Unwahrheit.
Hang the fuckers
· 10 months ago
British piano wire for British politicians!
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
"Winston Smith said... An election would be fantastic, but as we know Labour don't do democracy.
February 21, 2009 10:03 AM Lola said... If (when?) they dump McMental they will be doomed as such an act is an absolute admission that all of the policies they have followed since 1997 were tripe.
It'll give the opposition a field day.
Bring it on.
February 21, 2009 10:05 AM"
This is not a government it is a 'Ruling Council' and the Council is preparing for the political 'Death' of its Leader. Each council member is preparing their manifesto for the next period, which will be one where the council is in retreat. In military terms the pricipals in this bunfight are clearing the ground between them, checking on the strength of the power bloc behind them and launching raids to sieze the 'Holy Relics' remaining in the hands of the 'dying' leader - things such as 'Loyalty, Solidarity, Idealism, Strength of Purpose'. Doctrinal differences are simply different coloured banners behind which forces are mustered and as meaningful as any mythical animal that ever appeared on a warlord's flag.
The participants in this upcoming battle do all this in the belief that theirs will be a short interregnum. They will be returned to wield the power that is their right. They know with the certainty of any religion that they will hold office again: consequently their supporters are minions, to be used to buttress their power, and the electorate is merely the tide on which they float. The tide may go out, but it always returns.
If you think otherwise consider Sion Simon.
Jonathan Cook
· 10 months ago
It is good of the Labour party to throw on some entertainment for us whilst we endure their current economic nightmare.
Domesday
· 10 months ago
Over the next two months, leaks of Gordon's failing eyesight. In sorrow, Labour party accepts Gordon's resignation during May - sympathy vote slightly boosts Labour in county and european elections. Harriet steps up to the plate per party rules as deputy. No election because of economic crisis and need to focus on hard-working people. Election in 2010 under Harriet. She loses with Mandelson explaining that Labour understands that the electorate needed a fully mandated leader: Harriet did her best in impossible circumstances. Full Labour leadership campaign. I see it now.
cesars wife
· 10 months ago
wee dougie is far from safe himself as labours campaign manager he goes down with gordon , i find it funny that he is blaming gordon for labours pollratings when he is himself at least as responsible .
i hope its alan johnson , hes crap in commons biggest fence sitter labour have ever made if he ran a whelk stall it would need the need the nod from 4 quangoes and 3 unions , cameron would serve him up .
i mean who is there really , let alone the wonk ideologly that will continue to ruin the country .
labour could have there biggest local election defeat in history , so they ditch brown and then have 10 months to not take as bigger general election hit with a new leader .but the wonkness will continue , labour got us into this mess , i mean they will be utterly shot in the commons post june .
wee dougie is chained to gordons hand with the titanic , bit late to start saying it was bad deal cos his mate ed needs some beautification .
his biggest cockup has been delaying budget until april 22nd , i mean we are in a crisis , delaying it only shows how many people he is prepared to sacrifice to keep the tories and libs of him.
but all he has done is give them a nice target near to june .
money on budget speach saying "it wil take time for these measures to work "and asking electorate for mercy .
went to a local stage show this week , they had a characture of a kilt wearing, gay nazi dress designer saving the world , it was bang on for me , but its been written into folk lore that PM is a joke , about half of audience would be definite labour voters , and they were all laughing there heads off .
he should have called a general election in august last year and if he had gone the year before that he might even have won .
even definite labour voters i know hate this cabinet , one i know had met james purnell and said to me "perhaps he will get better when he is grown up enough to shave"
the voters have sussed labour is all a load of rubbish, they will continue to turn the working class into a client state , without chance of improvement .
they have failed , and they have lied (and still are lying) ballot box is freedom to choose a path , if they piss aroung with that basic understanding , this country could turn ungovernable .
throw 'em a banana
· 10 months ago
I want more of this. The bunch of monkeys in the cabinet can't help themselves, all running around and gibbering.
The commentators say that Brown won't quit. If the cabinet work up a head of steam then McMoron will be killed in the stampede.
I'd luv it! I'd really luv it!
LOL
Grex.
· 10 months ago
What joy it is in this day to be alive. Pour me a cuppa, bring me the popcorn while I watch and glory as this shower of nomarkspull themselves to pieces.
I used to work for an MP. Speeches to the constituency were usually to a room full of elderly women with crushes on the MP and people who smelled of wee with nowhere else to go after the library closed.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
A few months back it was reported that the Tories were working on a "Freedom Charter" which was pretty much what most of the country want:
No ID cards. No National Database. Quangos reduced. Hunting & Smoking Bans repealed. A lot of the "anti terror" legislation repealed. etc
It got a resounding thumbs up from wavering voters. But Call me Dave thought it was too much like a, well, a policy, so it disappeared into thin air.
I'm not voting Tory if they're gonna be the same bunch of hectoring, nannying cunts as Labour. Any fucker who'll repeal the Smoking Ban gets my vote. That only leaves UKIP and the BNP.
I suspect the BNP may be, in terms of votes at least (if not seats) the third biggest party after the next election....
Grumpy Old Man
· 10 months ago
Nothing will happen from inside the Cabinet They're all too frit, having been "promoted" on their fritness quotient (the higher the better). Salvatore Mundi is now in the bunker, insulated from reality by the Frit Corps and looking for the smashing Masterstroke which will win the day at one blow.(G20 Summit) From Jan 1945 to Jan 2009 at a bound. I have visions of Brown's corpse lieing in state in the Cabinet Office, surrounded by the Frit Corps who will take 3 days to pluck up courage to check whether he is still living. Be of good cheer, all loyal british subjects! Relief is close at hand.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
I can't believe that anyone in the 'cabinet' would want the job. They really are that fucking stupid. It's a one way street to the knackers yard,
Oh, unless they can rig the postal votes, that is.
sukyspook
· 10 months ago
We don't need elections we need arrests. . .
Whitwash, rope and piano wire still look like sound investments.
Gordo's cockring
· 10 months ago
Why is it increasingly likely they will dump Gordon?
Surely everything they are dong is about playing for time, about keeping the ministerial perks, clinging onto those taxpayers funds which many of the Cabinet are thieving. With more borrowed money thrown around, the economy could well be growing again by May 2010, at least temporarily.
Why would anyone in Cabinet seek to force a leadership election? Which of the lobotomised chimps who comprise the PLP would be agitating for an election?
These are not people of integrity, of vision, and possessed of great political drive and ambition. These are second raters who are making far more from taxpayer's largesse than they did prior to entering politics.
No this shower of shyte will drag it out to the bitter end
Gooey Blob
· 10 months ago
I get the impression that the in-fighting is more about what what happens after Labour loses the election, not before. Either way, it's crystal clear that the person who leads Labour into the next election will be finished immediately afterwards.
O/T but I reda at the start of the week on Bloomberg news feed that GM had decided to close the Ellesmere Port factory.
So why is everyone being so coy? Is Mandelson (a) trying to put together a rescue package or (b) working out how it can happen without any of the shit sticking to him or (c) tryint to get the announcement delayed until after the G20?
simon r
· 10 months ago
They will hold out until the summer.
Not a lot of work is being done in Parliament anyway at the moment as they have run out of ideas ( besides they've got Easter, Witsun extended breaks ). They wil plot like hell over the break, kick him out before the conference, crown their new leader and then STILL hold out until March as they have to state their case to the electorate ( whilst raking in as much money as they can before they are toast )
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
"This has all the indications of the initial preparations for a general election campaign"
They've been preparing for years .. preparing to lose...
That's why they have been screwing the expenses and the "second home" allowance. Like corrupt African dictators - they have loaded up their plane with the Countrys Gold and Jewels and are readyto fly into the sunset
Gordon
· 10 months ago
Gentlemen (and Ladies)
Please would one of you answer my query on a new Labour Leader:
Is there anything to stop Mandelson taking over, and if he does whilst Labour are still in power, does he become prime minister? Do they have to apoint a junior minister in the department of the prime minister to answer questions in the House? How would such a thing work?
Thanks for your help
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
These losers can jockey all they like for if Gordon calls an election to spite them they will all be toast they know this. So all they are really after is the shadow positions to keep those nice little earners rolling on in!
My problem is with Dave C, and the Tory pack I still don't trust them so perhaps the BNP might force radical system change, after all that’s what’s really needed.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Sorry, folks ... It's the EU, innit?
Look at the big picture - who on earth cares about a squabbling bunch of unkempt bankrupt neanderthal loonies on a dirty crappy island stuck out in the Atlantic somewhere near Iceland?
Answer? Nobody. The French know that civilisation ends just north of Paris, and the Germans know it ends at the Maas. Nothing else counts. Belgium? Hahahaha. Holland, nice people, but, sorreee. Denmark ditto. Radio Luxemburg ?? South of the Alps and Pyrenees - great holidays.
The real overwhelmingly important issue today is getting Russia into the EU (or vice versa) with all their lovely gas, oil and minerals and very clever well-educated chess-playing people. Then everything will settle down and we can have nice proportional representation to elect our Gauleiters (oops, Councillors, no, no, Regional Leaders) whilst the unelected nomenklatura 'get on with the job' whilst 'doing the right thing for Europe'. You can guess what that means, especially if Russia's southern borders are thought about.
Without being facetious, I just don't believe that the UK has the weight anymore and Sarkozy has said so to our faces. My own long-standing hope was that the UK could 'democratise' the EU as the price of entry, but that won't happen now as Brown has burnt all the chips on the table.
It's sunny in Sussex, but there is a cold wind from the North. DZ
Tuscan Tony
· 10 months ago
"can't have two successive Prime Ministers foisted on the country by the Labour Party"
This is why they'll probably wait until the bitter end in 2010 to dump the cretin - there's no prospect of Labour back power for at least 10-15 years; why miss out a year of taxpayer-funded pension contribs and exe's? The vast majority of them are driven by a desire to fill their boots and cushion their retirement not by some noble moral crusade for the benefit of Britain.
Weygand
· 10 months ago
If Brown were go, there would not have to be a general election and there would not be one.
Anybody who thinks otherwise must have been asleep for the last 11 years.
These bastards never put things to the people for reasons of moral legitimacty - remember the promised vote on EU constitution.
I can already here the excuses now.
Times too grave to waste energy on an election; we do not have a presidential system and is MPs that are elected not a government; need to finish what we started; need to set out our new agenda blah blah blah
Mitch
· 10 months ago
Do we have to have a "prime mentalist" could this cabinet of planks just carry on with out a head they seem to do OK with out brains.
I just think we have seen our last election and any excuse will do.
titus-aduxas
· 10 months ago
"Is there anything to stop Mandelson taking over"
Lord Home and Lord Hailsham both had to renounce their peerages and become MPs, in order to be considered for the post of PM. I'm not sure if Mandy is electable as an MP...............
Bombe Surprise
· 10 months ago
Fuck off Mandy you cunt.
Half eyed Scottish idiot
· 10 months ago
McGormless (for it is he)- Did you know you had a tit on your head.
Pope - It reminds of Tony Blair
( Sorry a day late!!)
the rise of the alexander sist
· 10 months ago
This little weasel of a boy is just like his sister, snooty, privilleged, groomed from an early age to have a career in politics with a lack of experience in the real world never having held a proper job.Both have an overinflated sense of their own importance and entitlement, coupled with a complete lack of self awareness of how much they are despised. His sister a spoiled child if ever there was one ( think "Verucca Salt" and you should get the picture), was a car crash as "leader" of the Scottish Labour Party, A car crash that many of us saw well in advance but would they listen oh no they wouldnt . the scottish media swooned and fawned and kept telling us she was an intellectual giant of a galactic scale. Of course it all fell around their ears , nearly landing her in the dock in the process ( yes sleaze is never far away)Despite being personally annointed by the self prclaimed "Father of the Nation" Donald three millions Dewar, whos soviet style statue stands in Glasgows Buchanan street to remind us of how totalitarioan we have become, the same fate will await wee doogie should he aspire to lead. I am almost tempted to follow if only out of a twisted sense of curiosity !
Jim Prior
· 10 months ago
This shower of middle managers will be dead or dribbling into their mashed mince in some hellhole old age home before we see Labour back in power.
My advice to Cameron. Recruit: Frank Field - Social Welfare Kate Hoey - Culture etc and Bill Quango - Defence
Bribe Quango first(Whitehall flat, butler on demand, Dorneywood weekends) and let him recruit Field and Hoey.
Labour in meltdown let the gam
· 10 months ago
I'd like to think that Camerons apparent reluctance to fully attack Brown at this time is akin to the scene in Braveheart where in the face of the advancing army Wallace commands his troops( itching to release their onslaught )with the words "HOLD, HOLD" until the time was exactly right and their bloodlust was unleashed with optimum effect. I'd like to think that anyway .
Ethelred the Unhinged
· 10 months ago
Labour are like the ski-jumper who loses a ski on the way down and must choose between landing on the leg with the ski, or the leg without.
As Clive James once observed and as even Mad Hattie Harperson has now come to realize, choosing the leg without is a huge mistake.
This is going to be fun to watch.
Budgie
· 10 months ago
Guido said: "We can't have two successive Prime Ministers foisted on the country by the Labour Party without any mandate."
Why ever not?
McBust will retire (under partially hidden duress) to spend more time with his family and/or become global regulatory chief.
The ZaNu brothers will say that there will be an election shortly and the new PM has to have time to set out his stall for the electorate.
Long on lamp-posts
· 10 months ago
Most talk is about McMental being usurped by Hattie or some other twat or fighting on till the next election. There is another distinct possibility that has been alluded to here and there but does not seem to have been discussed seriously - and that is assassination. There must be tens of thousands of people who will, before the time of the next election (if April 2010) have had their lives and those of their families utterly fucked by the snotgobbler and his mental entourage - people's jobs, businesses, houses, hopes and dreams, all gone in a puff of (Brown) smoke right before their eyes. Many people in their 40s and 50s who lose their livelihoods will probably never work again. The feelings of resentment, despair, anger, and outright hatred for the idiots in Government" must be so intensely held by so many that the chances of some taking it on themselves to get revenge must be non-trivial. It only takes one, after all, to take the bastard out. Some gun-crazed reposessed business owner might just do it. And of course it may not be McMental himself - plenty of other targets there. And what then? How would politics move on? A wave of "sympathy" is unlikely IMHO to materialise.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Harriet Harperson to take over.ApparentlyMalcolm Powers,Regional Director in the South East,has let slip that he has already let HH know that he wishesto head up her campaign in his region when she declares...
It ain't gonna happen - Gordon
· 10 months ago
Whilst theoretically the PM can be a peer of the realm and indeed it was the norm in the 19th Century - it is modern convention and has been since the 20th Century that the Prime Minister of the day is not a peer of the realm and must renounce his/her title and stand for election prior to Her Majesty requesting he/she forms a government(as mentioned above both the Earl of Home(subsequently Sir Alec Douglas-Home and later Baron Home) and Viscount Hailsham (subsequently Quentin Hogg and then Baron Hailsham)renounced their hereditary peerages(as of course did Tony(Wedgewood) Benn who also renounced his hereditary title of Viscount Stansgate to enable him to be a possible leader of the Labour Party. It's unlikely in my opinion that Lord Mandelson will be willing to renounce his recent title in view of the likelihood of the short time he would be in office and the unlikelihood of him being nominated for a peerage a second time. He would prefer I think to be the "eminence grise" and "kingmaker" rather than Prime Minister
"Raving loon said... Would that be the great clunking foist then?"
Accurate indeed.
Foist (Chambers) = to impose by fraud.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
That's bollocks.
Who sets these 'numbers'?!
If Labour can have one unelected prime minister, they can have as many as they like.
It's even more nonsensical to say 'one unelected PM is ok but no more than that', than to have an unelected PM in the first place.
The Dirty Rat
· 10 months ago
Still no news anywhere of Mandelson being hit on the head with a shoe yesterday - most strange.
Oldrightie
· 10 months ago
I'm not sure if Mandy is electable as an MP............... --------------- He'd be a shoein in closetshire! It's all very deja vu!
The Ferret Brothers (Fred and
· 10 months ago
We object strongly to our picture which associates us wrongly with the Labour Party! We shall be getting in touch with our lawyers and in the meantime wish it to be known that we are in fact members of the UK Independence Party.
Dalai Lama Ding Dong
· 10 months ago
This is all very amusing but we are in serious shit here.
Read the following and ask yourself if events playing out in the financial system bear any relation to this information.
Thanks to Brown, UK PLC is toast, gone, bankrupt, no more.
The World Economic Forum just took place in Davos Switzerland. The global picture enabled a nice snapshot of sentiment, fault for the crisis, blame doled out, the vacuum of leadership, the perks for blunderers in a country club setting (instead of prison), and warnings on a potential situation that could spiral out of control. Amidst all the finger pointing, surprisingly little blame was given to themselves, the corporate chieftains in attendance. Let's be clear! The Davos Forum was a funeral wake, and Putin rode in on a white horse to announce there is a new sheriff in town!! Davos afforded a unique opportunity for Russian self-styled leader Vladimir Putin to storm the forum stage and to steal the show. Putin presented a basic Blueprint for what should be called 'The Post-US World' as the United States and United Kingdom have lost the mantle of leadership and control. They lost it from failed economic policy, wrecked banking systems, fraud-ridden bond markets, corrupted debt ratings agencies, abuse of IMF & World Bank, and the severe backfire of economies that depended upon housing bubbles. Inflation turned on its haughty financial engineers! Nations with insolvent banks, insolvent households, corporations in liquidation, economies in near collapse, they tend not to be good owners and custodians of the global reserve currency!!!
Davos provided a flashpoint for a profound change in global leadership. The whimpering US-UK-EU bankers have been shamed. Then after the finger pointing, insults, hand wringing, and gut wrenching, Putin rode in on a white horse carrying a banner. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao provided the confirmation to what Putin laid out, like a second of a formal motion. Wen Jiabao proceeded from the Davos stage to four European capitals to seal the new path and its legitimacy. The barter system has been launched in quiet, while the Western press continues not to comprehend a ruptured status quo limping along. It cannot; it will not; the transition is on. Not only will the USDollar not provide the global highway for all to travel, but new barter systems will be dominant soon in working around the commodity price systems dominated by the US-UK corrupt price discovery systems. The other painful consequence to the new system soon taking root is that the global commodity supply routes will bypass the US destinations, enough to create mammoth shortages. Such is the fate of a nation thrust to the Third World. Its people and its leaders still do not realize it, as denial is ensconced in hope. The US credit supply has already been severed and cut almost completely off. Reliance upon the printing press to finance its own debts is a primary trait of a Third World nation, a shocking fact soon to be recognized.
The USDollar is essentially dead, the Davos Forum its funeral wake. It is enjoying a physical erection in the medical morgue, a rise in a death dance ceremony. US leaders refuse to accept the reality. They desperately need its continuation for assistance in funding the USGovt monstrous deficits. Western leaders struggle to admit the reality. Russian leaders, Chinese leaders, and Arab leaders (more quietly) openly admit the reality. Read the billboards, as the Davos Forum offered an entire row of them to observe. THE BEST STRESS METER IS NOW GOLD. Notice how gold rose all through the Davos Forum gathering. Nothing was solved. The Putin Blueprint for the 'Post-US World' shook up the currency markets, as gold reacted. The gold price is breaking out in all major currencies, except in USDollar terms. It just hit a new euro high.
A cherished contact with deep global experience had some very strong words about Davos and the Putin Blueprint. He made additional comments about the Wen trip across major European capitals. In an important message, he said, "Read in between the lines of Putin's speech and you find all the hints you want. The Chinese and Russians are burying the US alive. The Japanese, Germans, and Gulf States keep a very low profile for the moment. The decisions have been made: wait for 2010. They will use the unfolding chaos to introduce the new currency basket and trade rules… There is a brand new system being designed that will borrow from the past and apply 21st century tools for barter / counter trade / excess capacity etc. An Exchange Platform will cut out the banks altogether… [Chinese Premier] Wen delivered his speech in Davos and went straight to Berlin where they put the final touch on the new world currency basket, sponsored by Berlin-Moscow-Beijing-Tokyo-Riyadh. Moscow and Berlin already have a massive counter trade / barter trade agreement in place, and Beijing was eager to joint that platform as well." The new global currencies are planned for launch in
January 2010. They will be launched amidst growing chaos. Events up to that time will be tumultuous.
The USDollar should not be the true focus of attention. Paradoxically, as it dies a horrible death, its reserve currency status ensures it might be last to crumble. All other currencies are at risk, except perhaps the Japanese yen. The focus of attention should be directed to gold & silver. The pundits, anchors, and supposed experts believe that the rise in the gold price means that price inflation is an imminent but hidden threat. THEY ARE SO WRONG. The threat is of a collapsed global financial foundation, complete with rising chaos from no current viable alternative, as the Untied States finds itself tossed into a dungeon. The process is slow, but the pace is accelerating. The signpost in the dungeon is marked 'Third World' with full shame. The charges will go without trial, as the marketplace is brutal. But bank ruin, institutional corruption, exported bond fraud, permission of counterfeit rings, protection of crime syndicates, and abused global reserve currency custodial responsibility lie at the core. Most scrutiny of charges will be conducted much later, when too late, in an examination of the wreckage.
The broken bank system, crippled households, endless housing decline, corporations in retreat, and federal debt that cannot be financed by foreign creditors, these work together to guarantee that the Untied States does not just enter the Third World, but that the US will be thrust quickly into the Third World. Imagine a criminal in old colonial times being thrown down a staircase into a dirty dank dungeon, landing with many bruises, a bloody mouth, and perhaps a broken arm. The new US leadership is already making huge errors. Their lack of integrity is for now a well-kept secret, since the camp they emerged from is foul. Third World nations are not known for integrity or sound judgment. At a time when the US, UK, and European banks face dire need for bailouts and rescues, one might consider the specter of entire nations requiring bailouts, not just their banks. Iceland gave notice. Watch in horror as the risk rises for failures of states.
f the retarded Stimulus Bill is Obama's first blunder of domestic policy, then refusal to attend the Davos Forum himself was his first foreign policy blunder. Newly inaugurated Barack Obama could have traveled to Switzerland and met numerous finance ministers, bank leaders, and iconic individuals, even Vladimir Putin, Dmitry Medvedev, and Wen Jiabao. Instead, he sent greenhorn Timmy Geithner, the Treasury Secretary. Timmy shot his mouth off right away and lost global respect instantly. He repeated the oft-used and extremely old tired saw that China was manipulating its yuan currency. This angered the Chinese again, at a time when the US leaders need their creditors in full gear. Recall that Geithner's stupid comment came only a couple weeks after an even more stupid comment was made by outgoing Treasury Secy Henry Paulson. Hanky told the Chinese that they are mostly to blame for the global banking meltdown because their trade surpluses had grown too big, and they invested too much in USTreasury Bonds and USAgency Mortgage bonds. The Chinese shot back in anger and defiance to call that 'Gangster Logic' rightly. The integrity of US leaders is declining as fast as their judgment exercised. Already, the Chinese have no respect for the new US Financial Dream Team.
The message behind the actions was extremely loud. Chancellor of Exchequer Alistair Darling and Foreign Minister David Millibrand decided to cancel their trip to Davos. They stated publicly that certain people they wished to meet at Davos had canceled their trip and would not attend. They stated publicly about how affairs in the United Kingdom were pressing, the emergency too important to leave home. What a crock! The only guests who canceled their trips were the British. Perhaps the UK delegation planned to attend Davos and only meet among themselves. The nixed meetings planned with attendees might have been dominated by angry European Union finance ministers. Europeans are launching Currency War salvos at the British. Maybe the British did not want to be the subject of broad European criticism. The other important consequence of the British canceled plans was that the members of the Untied States contingency were left all alone, exposed to take the heat of criticism. The US & UK were united when they ruled the roost from corrupt platforms. They are divided as they fall.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
@Anon '....things such as 'Loyalty, Solidarity, Idealism, Strength of Purpose'. Nothing remotely connected to the corrupt & evil cabal that is NuLyingBore then? PS Hope Gordo's birthday was s***.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Is there now a moral case for assassination?
Ex Labour Party member
· 10 months ago
When all is said and done, I cannot believe the wasted decade New Labour have presided over.
To massively ramp up spending upon what are effectively monopolies like the NHS, without pushing through fundamental reforms was always madness. But to have spent ten years in office during a global boom (bubble), and yet have nothing in the bank to show for it, is criminal incompetance.
I've always believed in the statist ideology, but am having to send my 10 year old to a fee paying school, because she is surrounded by wannabee thugs, pre pubescent Nihilists, and what seem basically to be morons.
Voting Green next time, at least they believe in something.
corporal jones
· 10 months ago
It's all going a bit Dad's Army for the Labour Party.
Don't panic!
We're all doomed.
Mitch
· 10 months ago
A thought about taking the shot on brown....whoever did this would unofficially be a national hero and even though he would be jailed(token time only)be treated very well. I think we should form a queue then draw lots to see which mindless freak we get to shoot.
Mitch
· 10 months ago
I know I should get out more but could the credit crunch actually be a takeover of the world by the banks? a war they won without firing a shot?. It would seem that one way or another all our money ends up at a bank.Call it a bailout if you like or blackmail(sorry dolly not the racist kind you freak).
Now it's gone from late to lat
· 10 months ago
Simon r @12:02 - right on the money. This is how things will pan out - unless Brown pre-empts in June.
Gordon Brown should be section
· 10 months ago
Is Gordon Brown mentally ill? Many people think he is. Look at some of the comments here:
TalkSport Radio yesterday mentioned Mandelson being hit by a shoe in a car park after a TV interview. Haven't heard it on the BBC.
Yak40
· 10 months ago
Many people in their 40s and 50s who lose their livelihoods will probably never work again.
Already true today and will become the norm as things go further down the drain.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
At 10-3 Harriet is worth a punt surely
and I mean that in the nicest possible way ma'am
Sarah Brown
· 10 months ago
At least I don't have to go through with this ludicrous charade of a marriage for too much longer. Roll on May 2010!
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
QUTOE: the rise of the alexander sisters said... "This little weasel of a boy is just like his sister.... the same fate will await wee doogie should he aspire to lead."
Is this the same wee doogie who went to Washington (flights and accomodation paid by the funds of dashing Lord Gould (aka Aide to His grace King Tony, also architect of the new Labour bungle Project and director of Philip Gould Associates, lobbying consultant for Tesco?)
Wee doogie could not possibly hold a candle to a fart for fear such connections would explode from other orifices.
Sister was a wee hum dinger mind you...
45govt
· 10 months ago
Who knows what the rules are regarding the renouncing of a life peerage as opposed to an inherited one? Seems to me, that if you accept one, it ought not to be possible to change your mind just because a better offer comes along - such as PM. That ought to fuck the slimy Mandelscum of Boys.
Nu-Lav couldn't give us another unelected PM? - you must be joking - no-one has yet discovered any point at which the party of all the liars, thieves, perverts, and war criminals are prepared to draw the line.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Surely not Balls?
He was present at one of the secret Bilderberg meetings along with Gould.
How do I know? Ah well, fly on the wall. I wasn't there.
Mitch
· 10 months ago
wow gold over a thousand dollars on friday that currency sure is sliding.
Elby the Beserk
· 10 months ago
OT - Gimpy reckons he's got Draper bang to rights...
If they dump Gordon, I don't see why they would choose to have an election
Why would they want a mandate for the next PM, if they would lose at the polls ?
No they'll want to hold onto their expense claims until the last possible polling day
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
A very senior union leader stated outright on BBC news this morning that a car plant was teetering on the brink of closure with the loss of over 6000 jobs. Money was desperately needed and within days if it was to be saved. (It is not SAAB)
Right after this interview 'Mincybum' (He whom towards shoes and footware are lobbed) was on the same report saying to spread rumours was a dangerous thing to do at this time. mmmm Maybe so.
Either way one fact remains from this one of these two has to be either seriously wrong and panniking the troops or indeed lying about the impending disaster but which one?
Hence quite simpley, whoever is giving credence to what is later proved to be a rumour but reported in the press or is telling porkies because it needs to be played down when the original story was actually very factual will have to go. Union leader or government Minister which one is it to be? As the above picture states Ferrets in a sack indeed!
This situation is huge for all concerned and should be watched very carefully. Who would you believe in this because 6000+ poor sods and their families out there are disgracefully now just being used as union / government cannon fodder by the looks of it?
Harriet Harman PM in waiting
· 10 months ago
ON MESSAGE for pipsqueak weeee dougie,
REMEMBER THE SAD FATE OF wee WINDY Alexander, labour sister and all that!!!!
Fucker & Fucker Solici
· 10 months ago
I wish it to be known that I have been asked by a certain Ms Smith who has been accused of being found with her fingers in the till so to speak over a small matter of £116,000 or thereabouts. I say small matter because it is quite clear to me that this is but a storm in a teacup after all what is £116,000 in these days of quantative easing, I'll tell you what it is about £16.23 and for a little room in "Saf Landon" that is quite a bargain and represents exceptional value to the tax payer. I fully expect Ms Smith to be fully exonerated as it most certainly will please the court. Anyone who thinks differently will be hearing from my Solicitors who are in fact myself so thats more money I can claim from all you stoopid fuckers.
Wheel barrows all round.
Labour-Hater
· 10 months ago
Check out this anti-Labour site
http://cctvstar.blogspot.com/
Thatsnews
· 10 months ago
Brownites v Blairites v everyone else.
Wheee! What fun it will be over the next 6 to 12 months!
Not a sheep
· 10 months ago
Whilst a hereditary peer can resign his title, I don't believe a life peer can.
The Grim Reaper
· 10 months ago
Guido said: "We can't have two successive Prime Ministers foisted on the country by the Labour Party without any mandate."
I agree with you, but that isn't going to stop Labour from trying to impose it on us anyway.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
The News just on and reporting that a major car comapny will seek aid on Monday. Unison standing by its claims.
WAS MANDLESON LYING ON THE BBC FOR POLITICAL GAIN?
Ratsniffer
· 10 months ago
If ever there was a time when we needed a bit of firm leadership from the opposition, it's now. Cameron should be laying into this bunch of useless sleazy sacks of shit like there are no tomorrows, instead he's still taking advice from his bunch of out of touch posh fops who haven't a fucking clue what ordinary people are talking about.
He's so concerned with appearing as "nice" and "pee cee" and not "old tory" that he has forgotten what conservatism stands for.
Yes, by all means re-invent the party, but don't win the election by default, win it because you are carrying the country along on a wave of enthusiasm for your policies (if you have any)
Wythenshawe Red
· 10 months ago
So fucking what if Vauxhalls at Ellesmere Port closes. They're all lazy, skiving fucking plastic-scousers anyway.
Fucking dippers, fuck em.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Fourth term?..are they fucking deluded, only got a third as the lazy scroungers and public sector non-jobbers kept them in power, most of the rest of the moronic population was too busy enjoying the fruits of the House of Cards and the only reason they are still here is the opposition is a waste of space who could and should have forced these Communists out long ago and a politicised Police Force preventing the traitors having their heads removed..Fourth term, well I hope the bastards like 72 virgins that's where they will be.
Chris A
· 10 months ago
We can't have two successive Prime Ministers foisted on the country by the Labour Party without any mandate.
Why not?
Wat Tyler's Spirit
· 10 months ago
They wouldn't be able to foist another primeminister on us without an election. Many of the taxes are collected by businesses. The country was on a knife edge during the fuel protests. A combination of civil disobedience through transport disruption and tax witholding by the businesses would see them out of office.
The people have to consent to be governed. If it is clear that they do not consent ( and there is no fucking way under the sun that I would want Harperson dictating to me ) then the populus would be perfectly within their rights to resist.
We only have elections because of martyrs in the generations before ours refusing to knuckle down. It might be bollocks, but it is worth fighting for.
poor bloody taxpayer
· 10 months ago
Ooh, look. Wee Dougie and valiant little Hazel have woken up and noticed the Great British Public is a tad miffed.
Julian
· 10 months ago
Mr Tuscan
This is why they'll probably wait until the bitter end in 2010 to dump the cretin - there's no prospect of Labour back power for at least 10-15 years
You sir, are being remarkably optimistic that Labour will be back in power within 15 years. I'd give them another 30 to 40 years, or at least until Tony Blair has died and they get the sympathy vote.
pigs in space
· 10 months ago
Labour might as well give each of their MPs a day at being prime minister between now and the next election so they can all get a huge pension pot and disappear overseas sharpish afterwards.Just read some of the comments on polly pot's latest at the Guardian, pretty much all anti Labour. The present government is hated with a passion formerly unheard of in British politics, even by some of it's former supporters.
Beowulff
· 10 months ago
This group of Marxoids truly represent the most monstrous evil we have faced since the Nazis. Sadly since the population has been dumbed down by the BBC and the Guardian etc. they don't realise they are being led into total beggary and corruption. You could say it serves them right for voting for the deceitful bastards in the first place, but the worst aspect of the evil behaviour of Brown and his Cronies is the unsupportable debt they are generating is to be loaded onto future generations who have had no say in this disgusting Marxoid Decadence. Let’s hope this will be a lesson in the history books for centuries to come. Nothing left now but to hope for a hero to emerge and to ask the Pope to pray for us. (Sorry I forgot that’s against the Law now)
Labour = Bankrupt Britain
OwlHoot
· 10 months ago
@Dalai Lama Ding Dong 2:51pm
Sounds pretty grim, but aren't you overlooking something? If this depression continues, the Russian and Chinese economies won't be unassailable either, and nor the Krauts' or anyone else's for that matter.
Russia's reserves are evaporating at an alarming rate, what with the low oil price, and China has to cater for rising unemployment on account of the goods it can no longer export and which are therefore uneconomical to make.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
Just hopped over to LabourLost to see what fantasies it was spinning today - NOTHING. Seems to have stopped work Friday afternoon & that's it. Committment - eh?
Budgie
· 10 months ago
Anon 4:42pm said: "Right after this interview 'Mincybum' (He whom towards shoes and footware are lobbed) was on the same report saying to spread rumours was a dangerous thing to do at this time."
I wonder why he did not make the same comment when Peston was bad mouthing the banks? It couldn't be because McBust wanted to pick up the banks for a song could it?
Thank you for your answers about Mandy as PM/zanulabour leader, I appreciate you making the effort to educate me
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
If only. Brown will carry on until the bitter end- and he will, without a doubt, put off a general election until the last moment. So I'm afraid it's basically two more years of this miserable bastard...
mudslinger
· 10 months ago
"It is becoming increasingly likely that the Labour Party is readying itself to dump Gordon, if they do, they will have to have an immediate general election."
I'm gonna miss that guy.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
If you read his piece in CiF today, you will see that even NuLab invertebrates are forced to do something given his mental state. The article reeks of green ink. The man is utterly delusional. It is quite distressing.
Anonymous
· 10 months ago
I read somewhere that there's a likelihood that Snotty will call a snap election in May 2009 after the G20 summit. He'll be hoping for an Obama bounce, though how he can overturn a 20% deficit in the polls is a mystery to me.
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But I'm really not sure it's worth the effort.
June anybody?
Hmmm.
It'll give the opposition a field day.
Bring it on.
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Have a good laugh we all need it! Pathetic people running about in circles...who said increasingly looking like a lame duck, if it limp qucks and looks like a duckk it is! Don't be so reticent!
However bad Postie Johnson might feel about 'out-of-character' boasting and bravado nothing would be worse than knowing that Brown is going anyway, and that someone else took the crown purely because they had were even more deluded in self-believing aggrandisement than Harriet Harpy..
They have to start realising that Gordon is toast, and that the 'best' person for the job has to 'seize the day', otherwise another chinless wonder will become PM due purely to over-estimating their ability and a greed for power...
Only one person can stop all this..
Is it a bird ?
Is it a plane ?
NO - IT'S SUPER-CHIPMUNK !!!!
And the rest of the useless bunch of cabineteers.
Who says? This is a party that has stretched constitutional behaviour to breaking point and beyond. Ministers never resign however badly they are shown to have behaved, they have sold honours, and they have manipulated the House of Lords. They have gerrymandered elections through rigged postal voting, they have invented communications allowances for the dissemination of labour party propaganda at public expense and they have appointed their placeholders to every significant public body.
I wouldn't put anything past this lot, including putting off a General Election because of the economic emergency.
I'm afraid I don't share your (Guido) optimism about getting an early election, these cunts know that they are going to lose. They're just looking for the best position to sit out the generation of opposition. Far better (for them) to let gorgon take the fall (whilst they pad their bank accounts), but be in a position to get the leadership after the next election (as late as el gordo can make it).
In the meantime CallMeDave still refuses to give something for people to vote FOR. He's happy to win by letting people vote against zanulabia. The BNP seems the logical beneficiary to this - why vote for the cons if they're pretty much the same as gorgon's bunch of third rate incompetents?
CallMeDave _can_ announce some policies that are
a) good for the country
b) (as (a) doesn't seem to be enough) are unstealable by gorgon.
No Id cards
NHS computer systems - small and workable only
CCTV control
GCHQ databases
Filleting of Quangos and fake charities
For fuxake Dave please start looking like you deserve to fucking win.
Bring back David Davis and start to listen to what freedom is about.
It looks like the tories made a monumental mistake picking you over DD. If you listen and DO what he says, perhaps WE (the people) can have the best of both worlds (whatever the skills you're supposed to bring to the party are - Being Blair/Obama mk III is NOT FUCKING GOOD ENOUGH).
Gimpy has just posted this little update on Mr Draper's qualifications.
Derek Draper has misled his patients, the press and the public over his degree
It would be useful for the candidates to do a mae culpa on holding a coronation - could be worth a few points as Cameron is a bit of a cunt.
Aha, you had me going there!
"someone else took the crown purely because they had were even more deluded in self-believing aggrandisement than Harriet Harpy.. "
How can anyone be more deluded than HH?
Proves my point, you weren't being serious...oh wait...blears, balls, millitwunts, jacquit!
Oh fuck, sorry Anon you were right; it is possible that there are zanulabia mps as deluded (or more) than that ultra-twunt HH
I can only apologise...unlike el gordo
The next leader of the Labour Party will be either a William Hague figure (if Milliband stands) or a Michael Howard (if an older person stands). Because of this no one will want to stand. The best deal anybody in the cabinet can get is to become PM - even for a few short weeks and claim a larger pension. These are a bunch of money grubbers who have destroyed the economy in the name of social justice.
Only without the laughs, the learning process and the happy ending.
But it's far more likely that the event will descend into chaos and end in acrimony. Brown, Sarkozy, Merkel and Berlusconi are meeting this weekend to stitch up the agenda, but there are other interests in play determined to stop them.
And there will be uncontrollable sideshows, like Harman's risible idea of a women's summit. Who will be the attenders? Michele Obama (I doubt it), Hilary Clinton (purlese), Carla Bruni (now you're talking). Are catamites invited?
Brown's credibility has now been fully invested in the prospect of getting Russia, China, Brazil, the EU and the US all singing from the same hymn sheet at the final plenary. In my humble opinion he will fail to achieve this, and will finish the summit an even bigger twat that he starts it.
Really!
'Two successive Prime Minister's'(sic)
The Apostrophe Police will be calling!
Red Wedge is right to say a week is a long time in politics.
Fifteen years is a bloody ice age.
So lets all pull together and sharpen our knives and bribe our colleagues with improbable and pointless shadow jobs. The victory of tomorrow can be won today.
Karl Marx said something profound.
"Its not over till the fat man sings"
And Prescott is humming in his bath already. Its time to get back to our roots. The real Labour party.
A cabal of duplicitous, back-stabbing,hair splitting, factionalised hamper of lonely students, bed wetters, anarchists, permanently off sick, rent a mob benefits scroungers, faux academics, trade union deceivers, gravy train sniffers, failed greens,business low fliers, chancers, anarchists, Marxists, Trots,Social democrats,asylum seekers,anarchists, communists,third way bullshitters, astrologers,water diviners,animal rights activists, lucky heather sellers, little Napoleons, socialist, euro bureaucrats, nannying, guardian loving do gooders and Big Brother statists and control freaks..and just plain freaks..
Brothers and sisters..we always knew this NuLabour Mumbo Jumbo would never fly. Lets get back to what we do best. Lets join together to create a schism!
Liberalism, Subversion, Fabianism and Keynesian Economics
Neues Arbeit - Kraft durch Unwahrheit.
An election would be fantastic, but as we know Labour don't do democracy.
February 21, 2009 10:03 AM
Lola said...
If (when?) they dump McMental they will be doomed as such an act is an absolute admission that all of the policies they have followed since 1997 were tripe.
It'll give the opposition a field day.
Bring it on.
February 21, 2009 10:05 AM"
This is not a government it is a 'Ruling Council' and the Council is preparing for the political 'Death' of its Leader. Each council member is preparing their manifesto for the next period, which will be one where the council is in retreat.
In military terms the pricipals in this bunfight
are clearing the ground between them, checking on the strength of the power bloc behind them and launching raids to sieze the 'Holy Relics' remaining in the hands of the 'dying' leader - things such as 'Loyalty, Solidarity, Idealism, Strength of Purpose'.
Doctrinal differences are simply different coloured banners behind which forces are mustered and as meaningful as any mythical animal that ever appeared on a warlord's flag.
The participants in this upcoming battle do all this in the belief that theirs will be a short interregnum. They will be returned to wield the power that is their right.
They know with the certainty of any religion that they will hold office again: consequently their supporters are minions, to be used to buttress their power, and the electorate is merely the tide on which they float.
The tide may go out, but it always returns.
If you think otherwise consider Sion Simon.
i hope its alan johnson , hes crap in commons biggest fence sitter labour have ever made if he ran a whelk stall it would need the need the nod from 4 quangoes and 3 unions , cameron would serve him up .
i mean who is there really , let alone the wonk ideologly that will continue to ruin the country .
labour could have there biggest local election defeat in history , so they ditch brown and then have 10 months to not take as bigger general election hit with a new leader .but the wonkness will continue , labour got us into this mess , i mean they will be utterly shot in the commons post june .
wee dougie is chained to gordons hand with the titanic , bit late to start saying it was bad deal cos his mate ed needs some beautification .
his biggest cockup has been delaying budget until april 22nd , i mean we are in a crisis , delaying it only shows how many people he is prepared to sacrifice to keep the tories and libs of him.
but all he has done is give them a nice target near to june .
money on budget speach saying "it wil take time for these measures to work "and asking electorate for mercy .
went to a local stage show this week , they had a characture of a kilt wearing, gay nazi dress designer saving the world , it was bang on for me , but its been written into folk lore that PM is a joke , about half of audience would be definite labour voters , and they were all laughing there heads off .
he should have called a general election in august last year and if he had gone the year before that he might even have won .
even definite labour voters i know hate this cabinet , one i know had met james purnell and said to me "perhaps he will get better when he is grown up enough to shave"
the voters have sussed labour is all a load of rubbish, they will continue to turn the working class into a client state , without chance of improvement .
they have failed , and they have lied (and still are lying) ballot box is freedom to choose a path , if they piss aroung with that basic understanding , this country could turn ungovernable .
The bunch of monkeys in the cabinet can't help themselves, all running around and gibbering.
The commentators say that Brown won't quit. If the cabinet work up a head of steam then McMoron will be killed in the stampede.
I'd luv it! I'd really luv it!
LOL
I used to work for an MP. Speeches to the constituency were usually to a room full of elderly women with crushes on the MP and people who smelled of wee with nowhere else to go after the library closed.
No ID cards.
No National Database.
Quangos reduced.
Hunting & Smoking Bans repealed.
A lot of the "anti terror" legislation repealed. etc
It got a resounding thumbs up from wavering voters. But Call me Dave thought it was too much like a, well, a policy, so it disappeared into thin air.
I'm not voting Tory if they're gonna be the same bunch of hectoring, nannying cunts as Labour. Any fucker who'll repeal the Smoking Ban gets my vote. That only leaves UKIP and the BNP.
I suspect the BNP may be, in terms of votes at least (if not seats) the third biggest party after the next election....
I have visions of Brown's corpse lieing in state in the Cabinet Office, surrounded by the Frit Corps who will take 3 days to pluck up courage to check whether he is still living. Be of good cheer, all loyal british subjects! Relief is close at hand.
Oh, unless they can rig the postal votes, that is.
we need arrests. . .
Whitwash, rope and piano wire still look like sound investments.
Surely everything they are dong is about playing for time, about keeping the ministerial perks, clinging onto those taxpayers funds which many of the Cabinet are thieving.
With more borrowed money thrown around, the economy could well be growing again by May 2010, at least temporarily.
Why would anyone in Cabinet seek to force a leadership election?
Which of the lobotomised chimps who comprise the PLP would be agitating for an election?
These are not people of integrity, of vision, and possessed of great political drive and ambition.
These are second raters who are making far more from taxpayer's largesse than they did prior to entering politics.
No this shower of shyte will drag it out to the bitter end
So why is everyone being so coy? Is Mandelson (a) trying to put together a rescue package or (b) working out how it can happen without any of the shit sticking to him or (c) tryint to get the announcement delayed until after the G20?
Not a lot of work is being done in Parliament anyway at the moment as they have run out of ideas ( besides they've got Easter, Witsun extended breaks ). They wil plot like hell over the break, kick him out before the conference, crown their new leader and then STILL hold out until March as they have to state their case to the electorate ( whilst raking in as much money as they can before they are toast )
They've been preparing for years .. preparing to lose...
That's why they have been screwing the expenses and the "second home" allowance.
Like corrupt African dictators - they have loaded up their plane with the Countrys Gold and Jewels and are readyto fly into the sunset
Please would one of you answer my query on a new Labour Leader:
Is there anything to stop Mandelson taking over, and if he does whilst Labour are still in power, does he become prime minister? Do they have to apoint a junior minister in the department of the prime minister to answer questions in the House? How would such a thing work?
Thanks for your help
My problem is with Dave C, and the Tory pack I still don't trust them so perhaps the BNP might force radical system change, after all that’s what’s really needed.
Look at the big picture - who on earth cares about a squabbling bunch of unkempt bankrupt neanderthal loonies on a dirty crappy island stuck out in the Atlantic somewhere near Iceland?
Answer? Nobody. The French know that civilisation ends just north of Paris, and the Germans know it ends at the Maas. Nothing else counts. Belgium? Hahahaha. Holland, nice people, but, sorreee. Denmark ditto. Radio Luxemburg ?? South of the Alps and Pyrenees - great holidays.
The real overwhelmingly important issue today is getting Russia into the EU (or vice versa) with all their lovely gas, oil and minerals and very clever well-educated chess-playing people. Then everything will settle down and we can have nice proportional representation to elect our Gauleiters (oops, Councillors, no, no, Regional Leaders) whilst the unelected nomenklatura 'get on with the job' whilst 'doing the right thing for Europe'. You can guess what that means, especially if Russia's southern borders are thought about.
Without being facetious, I just don't believe that the UK has the weight anymore and Sarkozy has said so to our faces. My own long-standing hope was that the UK could 'democratise' the EU as the price of entry, but that won't happen now as Brown has burnt all the chips on the table.
It's sunny in Sussex, but there is a cold wind from the North.
DZ
This is why they'll probably wait until the bitter end in 2010 to dump the cretin - there's no prospect of Labour back power for at least 10-15 years; why miss out a year of taxpayer-funded pension contribs and exe's? The vast majority of them are driven by a desire to fill their boots and cushion their retirement not by some noble moral crusade for the benefit of Britain.
Anybody who thinks otherwise must have been asleep for the last 11 years.
These bastards never put things to the people for reasons of moral legitimacty - remember the promised vote on EU constitution.
I can already here the excuses now.
Times too grave to waste energy on an election; we do not have a presidential system and is MPs that are elected not a government; need to finish what we started; need to set out our new agenda blah blah blah
I just think we have seen our last election and any excuse will do.
Lord Home and Lord Hailsham both had to renounce their peerages and become MPs, in order to be considered for the post of PM. I'm not sure if Mandy is electable as an MP...............
Pope - It reminds of Tony Blair
( Sorry a day late!!)
I am almost tempted to follow if only out of a twisted sense of curiosity !
My advice to Cameron. Recruit:
Frank Field - Social Welfare
Kate Hoey - Culture etc
and
Bill Quango - Defence
Bribe Quango first(Whitehall flat, butler on demand, Dorneywood weekends) and let him recruit Field and Hoey.
As Clive James once observed and as even Mad Hattie Harperson has now come to realize, choosing the leg without is a huge mistake.
This is going to be fun to watch.
Why ever not?
McBust will retire (under partially hidden duress) to spend more time with his family and/or become global regulatory chief.
The ZaNu brothers will say that there will be an election shortly and the new PM has to have time to set out his stall for the electorate.
Westminster is a charade.
Would that be the great clunking foist then?"
Accurate indeed.
Foist (Chambers) = to impose by fraud.
Who sets these 'numbers'?!
If Labour can have one unelected prime minister, they can have as many as they like.
It's even more nonsensical to say 'one unelected PM is ok but no more than that', than to have an unelected PM in the first place.
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He'd be a shoein in closetshire! It's all very deja vu!
Read the following and ask yourself if events playing out in the financial system bear any relation to this information.
Thanks to Brown, UK PLC is toast, gone, bankrupt, no more.
The World Economic Forum just took place in Davos Switzerland. The global picture enabled a nice snapshot of sentiment, fault for the crisis, blame doled out, the vacuum of leadership, the perks for blunderers in a country club setting (instead of prison), and warnings on a potential situation that could spiral out of control. Amidst all the finger pointing, surprisingly little blame was given to themselves, the corporate chieftains in attendance. Let's be clear! The Davos Forum was a funeral wake, and Putin rode in on a white horse to announce there is a new sheriff in town!! Davos afforded a unique opportunity for Russian self-styled leader Vladimir Putin to storm the forum stage and to steal the show. Putin presented a basic Blueprint for what should be called 'The Post-US World' as the United States and United Kingdom have lost the mantle of leadership and control. They lost it from failed economic policy, wrecked banking systems, fraud-ridden bond markets, corrupted debt ratings agencies, abuse of IMF & World Bank, and the severe backfire of economies that depended upon housing bubbles. Inflation turned on its haughty financial engineers! Nations with insolvent banks, insolvent households, corporations in liquidation, economies in near collapse, they tend not to be good owners and custodians of the global reserve currency!!!
Davos provided a flashpoint for a profound change in global leadership. The whimpering US-UK-EU bankers have been shamed. Then after the finger pointing, insults, hand wringing, and gut wrenching, Putin rode in on a white horse carrying a banner. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao provided the confirmation to what Putin laid out, like a second of a formal motion. Wen Jiabao proceeded from the Davos stage to four European capitals to seal the new path and its legitimacy. The barter system has been launched in quiet, while the Western press continues not to comprehend a ruptured status quo limping along. It cannot; it will not; the transition is on. Not only will the USDollar not provide the global highway for all to travel, but new barter systems will be dominant soon in working around the commodity price systems dominated by the US-UK corrupt price discovery systems. The other painful consequence to the new system soon taking root is that the global commodity supply routes will bypass the US destinations, enough to create mammoth shortages. Such is the fate of a nation thrust to the Third World. Its people and its leaders still do not realize it, as denial is ensconced in hope. The US credit supply has already been severed and cut almost completely off. Reliance upon the printing press to finance its own debts is a primary trait of a Third World nation, a shocking fact soon to be recognized.
The USDollar is essentially dead, the Davos Forum its funeral wake. It is enjoying a physical erection in the medical morgue, a rise in a death dance ceremony. US leaders refuse to accept the reality. They desperately need its continuation for assistance in funding the USGovt monstrous deficits. Western leaders struggle to admit the reality. Russian leaders, Chinese leaders, and Arab leaders (more quietly) openly admit the reality. Read the billboards, as the Davos Forum offered an entire row of them to observe. THE BEST STRESS METER IS NOW GOLD. Notice how gold rose all through the Davos Forum gathering. Nothing was solved. The Putin Blueprint for the 'Post-US World' shook up the currency markets, as gold reacted. The gold price is breaking out in all major currencies, except in USDollar terms. It just hit a new euro high.
A cherished contact with deep global experience had some very strong words about Davos and the Putin Blueprint. He made additional comments about the Wen trip across major European capitals. In an important message, he said, "Read in between the lines of Putin's speech and you find all the hints you want. The Chinese and Russians are burying the US alive. The Japanese, Germans, and Gulf States keep a very low profile for the moment. The decisions have been made: wait for 2010. They will use the unfolding chaos to introduce the new currency basket and trade rules… There is a brand new system being designed that will borrow from the past and apply 21st century tools for barter / counter trade / excess capacity etc. An Exchange Platform will cut out the banks altogether… [Chinese Premier] Wen delivered his speech in Davos and went straight to Berlin where they put the final touch on the new world currency basket, sponsored by Berlin-Moscow-Beijing-Tokyo-Riyadh. Moscow and Berlin already have a massive counter trade / barter trade agreement in place, and Beijing was eager to joint that platform as well." The new global currencies are planned for launch in
January 2010. They will be launched amidst growing chaos. Events up to that time will be tumultuous.
The USDollar should not be the true focus of attention. Paradoxically, as it dies a horrible death, its reserve currency status ensures it might be last to crumble. All other currencies are at risk, except perhaps the Japanese yen. The focus of attention should be directed to gold & silver. The pundits, anchors, and supposed experts believe that the rise in the gold price means that price inflation is an imminent but hidden threat. THEY ARE SO WRONG. The threat is of a collapsed global financial foundation, complete with rising chaos from no current viable alternative, as the Untied States finds itself tossed into a dungeon. The process is slow, but the pace is accelerating. The signpost in the dungeon is marked 'Third World' with full shame. The charges will go without trial, as the marketplace is brutal. But bank ruin, institutional corruption, exported bond fraud, permission of counterfeit rings, protection of crime syndicates, and abused global reserve currency custodial responsibility lie at the core. Most scrutiny of charges will be conducted much later, when too late, in an examination of the wreckage.
The broken bank system, crippled households, endless housing decline, corporations in retreat, and federal debt that cannot be financed by foreign creditors, these work together to guarantee that the Untied States does not just enter the Third World, but that the US will be thrust quickly into the Third World. Imagine a criminal in old colonial times being thrown down a staircase into a dirty dank dungeon, landing with many bruises, a bloody mouth, and perhaps a broken arm. The new US leadership is already making huge errors. Their lack of integrity is for now a well-kept secret, since the camp they emerged from is foul. Third World nations are not known for integrity or sound judgment. At a time when the US, UK, and European banks face dire need for bailouts and rescues, one might consider the specter of entire nations requiring bailouts, not just their banks. Iceland gave notice. Watch in horror as the risk rises for failures of states.
f the retarded Stimulus Bill is Obama's first blunder of domestic policy, then refusal to attend the Davos Forum himself was his first foreign policy blunder. Newly inaugurated Barack Obama could have traveled to Switzerland and met numerous finance ministers, bank leaders, and iconic individuals, even Vladimir Putin, Dmitry Medvedev, and Wen Jiabao. Instead, he sent greenhorn Timmy Geithner, the Treasury Secretary. Timmy shot his mouth off right away and lost global respect instantly. He repeated the oft-used and extremely old tired saw that China was manipulating its yuan currency. This angered the Chinese again, at a time when the US leaders need their creditors in full gear. Recall that Geithner's stupid comment came only a couple weeks after an even more stupid comment was made by outgoing Treasury Secy Henry Paulson. Hanky told the Chinese that they are mostly to blame for the global banking meltdown because their trade surpluses had grown too big, and they invested too much in USTreasury Bonds and USAgency Mortgage bonds. The Chinese shot back in anger and defiance to call that 'Gangster Logic' rightly. The integrity of US leaders is declining as fast as their judgment exercised. Already, the Chinese have no respect for the new US Financial Dream Team.
The message behind the actions was extremely loud. Chancellor of Exchequer Alistair Darling and Foreign Minister David Millibrand decided to cancel their trip to Davos. They stated publicly that certain people they wished to meet at Davos had canceled their trip and would not attend. They stated publicly about how affairs in the United Kingdom were pressing, the emergency too important to leave home. What a crock! The only guests who canceled their trips were the British. Perhaps the UK delegation planned to attend Davos and only meet among themselves. The nixed meetings planned with attendees might have been dominated by angry European Union finance ministers. Europeans are launching Currency War salvos at the British. Maybe the British did not want to be the subject of broad European criticism. The other important consequence of the British canceled plans was that the members of the Untied States contingency were left all alone, exposed to take the heat of criticism. The US & UK were united when they ruled the roost from corrupt platforms. They are divided as they fall.
Nothing remotely connected to the corrupt & evil cabal that is NuLyingBore then?
PS Hope Gordo's birthday was s***.
To massively ramp up spending upon what are effectively monopolies like the NHS, without pushing through fundamental reforms was always madness.
But to have spent ten years in office during a global boom (bubble), and yet have nothing in the bank to show for it, is criminal incompetance.
I've always believed in the statist ideology, but am having to send my 10 year old to a fee paying school, because she is surrounded by wannabee thugs, pre pubescent Nihilists, and what seem basically to be morons.
Voting Green next time, at least they believe in something.
Don't panic!
We're all doomed.
I think we should form a queue then draw lots to see which mindless freak we get to shoot.
It would seem that one way or another all our money ends up at a bank.Call it a bailout if you like or blackmail(sorry dolly not the racist kind you freak).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1151382/PETER-OBORNE-Treachery-sleaze-Prime-Minister-denial--This-Government-collapse.html
TalkSport Radio yesterday mentioned Mandelson being hit by a shoe in a car park after a TV interview. Haven't heard it on the BBC.
Already true today and will become the norm as things go further down the drain.
and I mean that in the nicest possible way ma'am
"This little weasel of a boy is just like his sister.... the same fate will await wee doogie should he aspire to lead."
Is this the same wee doogie who went to Washington (flights and accomodation paid by the funds of dashing Lord Gould (aka Aide to His grace King Tony, also architect of the new Labour bungle Project and director of Philip Gould Associates, lobbying consultant for Tesco?)
Wee doogie could not possibly hold a candle to a fart for fear such connections would explode from other orifices.
Sister was a wee hum dinger mind you...
That ought to fuck the slimy Mandelscum of Boys.
Nu-Lav couldn't give us another unelected PM? - you must be joking - no-one has yet discovered any point at which the party of all the liars, thieves, perverts, and war criminals are prepared to draw the line.
He was present at one of the secret Bilderberg meetings along with Gould.
How do I know? Ah well, fly on the wall. I wasn't there.
Well, hello Dolly
Why would they want a mandate for the next PM, if they would lose at the polls ?
No they'll want to hold onto their expense claims until the last possible polling day
Right after this interview 'Mincybum' (He whom towards shoes and footware are lobbed) was on the same report saying to spread rumours was a dangerous thing to do at this time. mmmm Maybe so.
Either way one fact remains from this one of these two has to be either seriously wrong and panniking the troops or indeed lying about the impending disaster but which one?
Hence quite simpley, whoever is giving credence to what is later proved to be a rumour but reported in the press or is telling porkies because it needs to be played down when the original story was actually very factual will have to go. Union leader or government Minister which one is it to be? As the above picture states Ferrets in a sack indeed!
This situation is huge for all concerned and should be watched very carefully. Who would you believe in this because 6000+ poor sods and their families out there are disgracefully now just being used as union / government cannon fodder by the looks of it?
REMEMBER THE SAD FATE OF wee WINDY Alexander, labour sister and all that!!!!
I fully expect Ms Smith to be fully exonerated as it most certainly will please the court.
Anyone who thinks differently will be hearing from my Solicitors who are in fact myself so thats more money I can claim from all you stoopid fuckers.
Wheel barrows all round.
http://cctvstar.blogspot.com/
Wheee! What fun it will be over the next 6 to 12 months!
I agree with you, but that isn't going to stop Labour from trying to impose it on us anyway.
WAS MANDLESON LYING ON THE BBC FOR POLITICAL GAIN?
He's so concerned with appearing as "nice" and "pee cee" and not "old tory" that he has forgotten what conservatism stands for.
Yes, by all means re-invent the party, but don't win the election by default, win it because you are carrying the country along on a wave of enthusiasm for your policies (if you have any)
Fucking dippers, fuck em.
Why not?
The people have to consent to be governed. If it is clear that they do not consent ( and there is no fucking way under the sun that I would want Harperson dictating to me ) then the populus would be perfectly within their rights to resist.
We only have elections because of martyrs in the generations before ours refusing to knuckle down. It might be bollocks, but it is worth fighting for.
This is why they'll probably wait until the bitter end in 2010 to dump the cretin - there's no prospect of Labour back power for at least 10-15 years
You sir, are being remarkably optimistic that Labour will be back in power within 15 years. I'd give them another 30 to 40 years, or at least until Tony Blair has died and they get the sympathy vote.
Sadly since the population has been dumbed down by the BBC and the Guardian etc. they don't realise they are being led into total beggary and corruption.
You could say it serves them right for voting for the deceitful bastards in the first place, but the worst aspect of the evil behaviour of Brown and his Cronies is the unsupportable debt they are generating is to be loaded onto future generations who have had no say in this disgusting Marxoid Decadence.
Let’s hope this will be a lesson in the history books for centuries to come. Nothing left now but to hope for a hero to emerge and to ask the Pope to pray for us. (Sorry I forgot that’s against the Law now)
Labour = Bankrupt Britain
Sounds pretty grim, but aren't you overlooking something? If this depression continues, the Russian and Chinese economies won't be unassailable either, and nor the Krauts' or anyone else's for that matter.
Russia's reserves are evaporating at an alarming rate, what with the low oil price, and China has to cater for rising unemployment on account of the goods it can no longer export and which are therefore uneconomical to make.
I wonder why he did not make the same comment when Peston was bad mouthing the banks? It couldn't be because McBust wanted to pick up the banks for a song could it?
wv: mishmate
I'm gonna miss that guy.
Chilling.